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  • I would both cheat and condone cheating to be loyal.

    2 14.29%
  • I would condone cheating, but not cheat, in order to loyal.

    1 7.14%
  • I would cheat, but not condone cheating, in order to be loyal.

    2 14.29%
  • I would neither cheat and condone cheating to be loyal.

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    Default Would you cheat or condone cheating in order to be loyal?

    There are various scenarios where such choices come up. Perhaps, less contrived than the kill for a sacred act.

    Would you cheat or condone cheating in order to be loyal?

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    i kinda believe that people are going to find their way to the people they meant to be with, even if they place little rules up, even if they are already taken steps to make their temporary relationships last. its like they are sifting sorta. things are following a trajectory with happy little accidents along the way, just a matter of openness and time.

    cheating is nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    Would you cheat or condone cheating in order to be loyal?
    I don't understand the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post
    I don't understand the question.
    Would you take a piss test for your druggy friend?

    My answer is no. Not anymore. Loyalty seems like a one way street anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Would you take a piss test for your druggy friend?
    Of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    My answer is no. Not anymore. Loyalty seems like a one way street anyways.
    Who hurt you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post
    Who hurt you?
    Not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Not you.
    Tell me more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post
    Tell me more.

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    I don't actually view blind loyalty as a virtue. I don't see that being loyal to somebody regardless of what they do or how they behave is laudable. Seems unprincipled and mindless to me; loyalty's not a basic principle, there have to be reasons *why* you're loyal to someone/something. People have to earn my loyalty, and enough strikes will lose it again. (See also: I cannot believe the amount of bile directed as parents who turn their kids in for things like murder. I understand why some people wouldn't, and I'm not sure I blame them for it. But turning them in is still the right thing to do! It doesn't make it any better that you love them. I applaud anyone with the courage and strength of character to do that. They're heroes, not monsters.)

    As for the question... I don't know. It's too broad and vague. What level of cheating are we tlaking, and how much does it matter? Would I cheat/condone cheating to get my best friend to pass an exam? No, I wouldn't. It won't actually help them in the end. Would I cheat at poker with a multi-millionnaire in order to save my best friend from bankruptcy? Yes, I think I might, though I'd really rather not. It depends so much on the specifics, which principles I'm violating.
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    Yeah I still don't understand the question. Maybe I'm on a slow day, but why must one cheat or condone cheating to be loyal?

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