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    The focus of our perceptions creates reality. Indeed, the power of focus may be the greatest gift of mental power we possess, it allowing us to impose our willpower upon creation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireShield98 View Post
    I am, therefore I think.
    Valid.

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    I don't feel, yet I am.
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    I don't think, yet I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireShield98 View Post
    I am, therefore I think.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    Valid.
    Not in a strict sense. If you believe a rock is, do you automatically believe it thinks?

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    Who's asking, or rather, where is the question to which you already know the answer, coming from, and why?
    You believe I already know the answer? Why? and what answer is it that I know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    Not in a strict sense. If you believe a rock is, do you automatically believe it thinks?

    He's not a rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    He's not a rock.
    Just saying. Thinking is not necessary for being. One can be without thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    Just saying. Thinking is not necessary for being. One can be without thinking.
    A person isn't a person unless he/she is conscious on some level. Pure unconsciousness for a human being may very well be a misnomer. Sure, a rock is unconscious. But as I said, Fireshield is not a rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    A person isn't a person unless he/she is conscious on some level. Pure unconsciousness for a human being may very well be a misnomer. Sure, a rock is unconscious. But as I said, Fireshield is not a rock.
    Are you implicitly saying that you find it impossible to stop thinking, and still be conscious?

    I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    Are you implicitly saying that you find it impossible to stop thinking, and still be conscious?

    I don't.
    Yeah. Otherwise, I wouldn't be me.

    "I think, therefore I am". It's a deduction from a simple statement that implicitly claims that "I am, therefore I think." The line of reasoning is inextricable from itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ygolo View Post
    I see therefore I am.
    I hear therefore I am.
    I smell therefore I am.
    I taste therefore I am.
    I feel therefore I am.
    and, yes...
    I think therefore I am.
    But I am more than that which sees, hears, smells, tastes, feels, and thinks.
    Who am I?
    personally, I think more "I believe therefore I am", but you being a Ti user and this being an Fi as hell thing to say, this probably makes absolutely no sense to you
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