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    i think suicide is wrong and not the right thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post

    No, actually it is not easy to know what is "natural," or what that word even means exactly. I think that was EcK's point.
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    The right to die is always valid.

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    I don't think morality has anything to do with it. Suicide is the result of an unfortunate situation, and is unfortunate for the other people involved. It is preferable in some situations to things like torture or a slow and painful death.

    My ethics consist of being responsible for the consequences of your actions. Most people who commit suicide are being self focused and not thinking about what effect it will have on others, but it is worth considering. I would not judge suicide to be the "honorable" consequence of actions you have done, but accepting death by someone else may be. I would not judge anyone who did think it was honorable, especially if it was the custom in their culture (such as with the samurai); I just might think it was a bit excessive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGERdeMAIN View Post
    To end suffering, all you have to do is blow out the candle :]
    Is that a euphemism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Suicide means you are making the overpopulation a lesser problem without disrespecting the integrity of other people. It's the ultimate unselfish act a person can make.
    ???? honorable and ethical?????? I know that this a free forum and every one is entiltled to their own opinion.... However, you guys have to be extra careful about the information that are being stated on this thread due to the sensetive nature of the topic. There are people here on this forum who maybe contempleting suicide and perhaps are looking for a "sign" or a favorable opinion to do that....


    I am not suggesting that life does not suck sometimes, and is not unjust but we humans with our limited knowldge are not aware of the opposite of life which is "nothingness", as it may be more painful....

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    an inconsequential conversation. whether suicide is "justified" is going to be the last thing on the mind of someone seriously considering it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    an inconsequential conversation. whether suicide is "justified" is going to be the last thing on the mind of someone seriously considering it
    I have to disagree with you. There are many people who maybe consider taking their lives but due to religious reasons, or out of concern for their families... may not do that, but when they read threads such as this one, when some people are refrerring to suicide as a "noble and unselfish act", and some are literally justify the action by giving unlimtrd freedom to people over their own lives., then commiting suicide does not seem so morbid... and it even may seem "justfied"! is that the goal of this thread???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darya View Post
    ???? honorable and ethical?????? I know that this a free forum and every one is entiltled to their own opinion.... However, you guys have to be extra careful about the information that are being stated on this thread due to the sensetive nature of the topic. There are people here on this forum who maybe contempleting suicide and perhaps are looking for a "sign" or a favorable opinion to do that....
    This subforum is for discussions, not for self help. I offered a perspective that is both logical and inconvenient. I was showing that is perfectly possible to defend that suicide can be considered a good thing from an ethical perspective (which, ofc, doesn't mean people who commit suicide are usually guided by ethical motives).
    To your credit, you may have a point, so I'm gonna edit my post to clarify it.
    I am not suggesting that life does not suck sometimes, and is not unjust but we humans with our limited knowldge are not aware of the opposite of life which is "nothingness", as it may be more painful....
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