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What is 'the greatest evil'?

godscollie

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The greatest good: Elegant life-giving complexity alternatively love

The greatest evil: Non-reciprocal identity.

It is important to remember that a monk once asked Ummon, "What is Buddha?" To which he replied, "Kanshiketsu!"

Buddha is a very wise man but falls short for the promotion of obesity.
 

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Buddha is a very wise man but falls short for the promotion of obesity.

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Nah thats not what he looks like :)
You make me laugh so hard.
He is my Buddy though.
You can have it two ways
1) I am Buddha
2) He is my buddy

My way

3) whatever i decide upon closer examination.

Ps : I do not have a huge problem with overweight people
i just cannot promote it as a good philosophy.
 

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The greatest evil: Non-reciprocal identity.

It is important to remember that a monk once asked Ummon, "What is Buddha?" To which he replied, "Kanshiketsu!"

Isn't that somewhat of an oxymoron? I was under the impression Yunmen/Ummon/whateverchinesetolatinnamespellingsconfuseme meant that Buddha is even the least significant form of life, or identity, which would also include low-reciprocal identities such as shit sticks, but I believe he even extends it to non-reciprocal identities such as specs of dust.

Ofcourse, even a spec of dust can make a man sneeze, but if that is your arguementation, I would like to know what identity is truely non-reciprocal to you. Because I would argue that it would not exist in that case.
 

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Nah thats not what he looks like :)
You make me laugh so hard.
He is my Buddy though.
You can have it two ways
1) I am Buddha
2) He is my buddy

My way

3) whatever i decide upon closer examination.

Ps : I do not have a huge problem with overweight people
i just cannot promote it as a good philosophy.

Yeah, you're not making any sense. I'm going to venture that you think you are Budai, who looks like a fatmat and is a Buddhist, but not Buddha.
 

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Yeah, you're not making any sense. I'm going to venture that you think you are Budai, who looks like a fatmat and is a Buddhist, but not Buddha.

I haven't actually really got a clue who either of them is. I love the going to
venture I think I am Budai or that I even think I am Buddha. As far as I know
Buddha is a fat man who sits on a hill. You go up the hill he tells you
something really wise and you leave happy.

we could all do with a bit of Jesus power, he almost has the same effect
a few second chat, complete conversion to his way, no writings
(as far as I am aware of) ? and off you go happy to the afterlife.

If only life was so easy.

I apologise if he's not fat and the slander upon his good name.I don't mind if
he's fat i was just saying philosophy is philosophy. I am not claiming to be
Buddha I think hes probably just a good friend of mine.

maybe.
 

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The greatest good: Elegant life-giving complexity alternatively love

The greatest evil: Non-reciprocal identity.

It is important to remember that a monk once asked Ummon, "What is Buddha?" To which he replied, "Kanshiketsu!"

sorry by non-reciprocal identity do you mean never to give back in relation to all things?

This would certainly fall under the guise of evil & a high contender for within
this character a taker is all forms of masks and subdefudges ?? hopefully you
know what i mean. There is a balance and under the balance is a great sway,
but giving nothing and taking everything is a cause to disaster.
 

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Good and evil don't exist, they're just arbitrary judgments we make after the fact. I would argue that it makes more sense to ask which actions cause the most harm and which are the most beneficial.

From there, I would say the action that causes the greatest harm is diffusing blame through group behavior. A simple example of this is a firing squad; several men shoot at a prisoner, but none have to take sole moral responsibility for the execution. One or two can even miss on purpose. The larger the group, the less need there is for individual moral decisions, and the easier it is to deflect blame for actions that are unambiguously harmful.

I would argue that this type of behavior is not sufficient but at least necessary for large scale harm (like wars and apathy to large scale suffering) to occur.

Dont you think that harm and benefice are just other words for evil and good? It seems like semantics to me, the semantics of those afraid of making judgements or being associated with traditional judgement.
 

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sorry by non-reciprocal identity do you mean never to give back in relation to all things?

This would certainly fall under the guise of evil & a high contender for within
this character a taker is all forms of masks and subdefudges ?? hopefully you
know what i mean. There is a balance and under the balance is a great sway,
but giving nothing and taking everything is a cause to disaster.

I think an evil person is one who it gives pain to love. If you cannot see them as being able to become good or understand why it is they do what they do then they are monsters. They are anathema. In such a state there can be no forgiveness and thus no reconciliation.
 

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I think the greatest evil is objectifying others, making individuals means to your own ends and not respecting or treating them as sacred and an end in themselves.

I see this behaviour as specifically associated in its worst incarnations with killing hope and causing despair, this is the action of every sadistic bully who I've ever known and what they take the most joy in. It is also the motif force in most predatory and exploitative behaviour, dominating, controlling and manipulating others, objectifying them and dehumanising them, sometimes compelling them to a fatalistic acceptance of whatever their predatory and exploitative imagination can come up with.

The greatest good, I believe, can be worded in a number of ways, to walk the earth and know that God is God, to love others as you love thyself, to love God and love your neighbour, it all means the same thing, which is something which eludes a great many people and always will but is particularly impossible for those who can not assail or transcend their emotive reaction to particular words such as God, and it is all the opposite of the greatest evil.
 

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Good and evil don't exist, they're just arbitrary judgments we make after the fact. I would argue that it makes more sense to ask which actions cause the most harm and which are the most beneficial.

Good and evil actions do exist though, don't you agree?

From there, I would say the action that causes the greatest harm is diffusing blame through group behavior. A simple example of this is a firing squad; several men shoot at a prisoner, but none have to take sole moral responsibility for the execution. One or two can even miss on purpose. The larger the group, the less need there is for individual moral decisions, and the easier it is to deflect blame for actions that are unambiguously harmful.

I would argue that this type of behavior is not sufficient but at least necessary for large scale harm (like wars and apathy to large scale suffering) to occur.

You are really on to something here. I think a lot could be learned about evil and an individual's relationship with and within a group is an interesting area to explore. And I agree this is probably how the most damage has been done to humans historically. Which then begs the question is it somehow a way nature culls population and attempts to stay in balance....But I digress.

What kinds of people find themselves drawn to groups? And is what drives them to be drawn to groups, what also drives them to be able to do evil within that group. This subject spawns lots of thought.
 

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I think an evil person is one who it gives pain to love. If you cannot see them as being able to become good or understand why it is they do what they do then they are monsters. They are anathema. In such a state there can be no forgiveness and thus no reconciliation.

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Good and evil actions do exist though, don't you agree?



You are really on to something here. I think a lot could be learned about evil and an individual's relationship with and within a group is an interesting area to explore. And I agree this is probably how the most damage has been done to humans historically. Which then begs the question is it somehow a way nature culls population and attempts to stay in balance....But I digress.

What kinds of people find themselves drawn to groups? And is what drives them to be drawn to groups, what also drives them to be able to do evil within that group. This subject spawns lots of thought.

Evil is a choice for all are aware of the concepts of good and bad, that is
what history is for. Humans are not dictated by natural in this age except for
natural disasters and water location which is a random. Nature has control
of lesser animals who aren't as mentally or physically endowed as humans.
For instance it is foolery to just make believe you are cleverer than an
elephant just because it has no voice box. God dreamt of eve first and chose
PRIME MATE for her beauty and intelligence combined this does not mean
man is the wisest of animals per say, he is just top because he is master of his enviroment due to the abilty of a hand unlike no other in existance. The mind
drives the ability to create, the human hand is natures top tool.

Human pack like behaviour & the problems it creates in terms of evil is
a problem Non INTP to the true description of Yung / myerrs / Biggs.
The INTP's on INTP Central might be trying to make a fallacy of the idea
but when did Yung etc get to observe INTP's in such a large pack. Followed
by over ninety nine per cent aren't even INTP's. A true INTP is a rarer creature
than believed INTP central is proof of that.

You have free will, human evil is human evil, nature does not cull humanity
it feeds & supports humanity. Man in turn destroyes his fellows animals &
enviroment with gay aplomb blieving himself to be master of his existance.

wrong.

Woman is not superior to man but is foolery to think God created man in
his own image and then Eve as an afterthought. God is Prime man Alpha
& Eve his dream.

I think i might have answered something you were saying i wander into
rambling land. Being God is not all it's cracked up to be. It demands to
much obsession & commitment. Adam should have just stayed within Eden
& thought f*ck having children.

Being God is a little bit of a true INTP nightmare.
 

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Human pack like behaviour & the problems it creates in terms of evil is
a problem Non INTP to the true description of Yung / myerrs / Biggs.
The INTP's on INTP Central might be trying to make a fallacy of the idea
but when did Yung etc get to observe INTP's in such a large pack. Followed
by over ninety nine per cent aren't even INTP's. A true INTP is a rarer creature
than believed INTP central is proof of that.

You have free will, human evil is human evil, nature does not cull humanity
it feeds & supports humanity. Man in turn destroyes his fellows animals &
enviroment with gay aplomb blieving himself to be master of his existance.

wrong.

Woman is not superior to man but is foolery to think God created man in
his own image and then Eve as an afterthought. God is Prime man Alpha
& Eve his dream.

Question: Did Jung find that non INTP, namely INFJ female, tended to be pack leaders? :smile:

And, if so, how do INTPs--on and off INTP central--accept that easily?
 

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Question: Did Jung find that non INTP, namely INFJ female, tended to be pack leaders? :smile:

And, if so, how do INTPs--on and off INTP central--accept that easily?

I am not obsessed with character types more characters so i have no idea
what yung thinks or don't. I haven't even looked at the character types. This
is not my obsession I just want to complete the Job and retire.

I am not aware of any INFJ females,I have five children to an ESTJ who gave
me Bi-Polar shes a socipathic mental bitch. I don't personally give a sh*t
who runs the pack. I am outside of the pack and have always f*cked the
pack up one by one in real life. Lioness females don't f*ck with male lions,
there is a lesson to be learnt in that.

I also dont care for your mother nature rules noncence :)

I am not even sure why i give a sh*t, Oh thats right i dont, I just
want to feed dying children. My bad sorry.

this site is an affront to psychiatry and basically a joke to developement.
How long you lot been carting your sh*t around here?
How have you affected or done sh*T for progress in the world?
Thats right Jack all.
All of you put to gether = nothing much use to anybody but your
own ego pandering selves.
well done you have taken years of work by Yung, myerrs & briggs &
achieved zero progress. all fourteen thousand of you.
Jennifer has had 28,000 plus posts still Jack Sh*t.
you see a pattern in your ego's
yes all your ego's combined = nothing in the real world
congrats you must be so proud.
thats right three people put this site together & forteen thousand einstein,
yung wannabeses achieved sh*t all progress, nice :)
This is the site where intelligence is droned from the hilltops
lets test
oh yeah F*ck all achieved.
 

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Come on then wisecrackers. i want to see the works, the progress,
the development of the human species?
For sure i see the development of super Ego's but nothing else.
maybe one of you would like to posts the number of threads & posts
you have all had to achieve nothing ???? I will look up your shame in
a moment.
the greatest evil
Fourteen thousand M*therF*ckers achieving F*ck all, in an ego takes all
worthless prize. For thats what you make both life & your enviroment
worthless.
lets just go check on that post count.
I am here on a mission to save lives what are you here for except
worthless pandering & lame ass kissing.

Threads: 8,041
Posts: 214,657

thats a start 8,041 threads, 214, 657 posts on mbti and you have developed
mbti ????

F*ck All. lol you must all be so proud, your legacy written in time
gabbled on more than any other site about your intelligence , great characters, huge egos & achieved nothing
well done.
big complex words to hide basic low morals, ignorance & stupidity.
please i am waiting i havent even started to add up the sum total of your shame
yet.
pretend fake character aphro, not ever or will ever have anything to do with God
posts 3,447
achievements = zero
use to humanity = zero
she does proclaim to be a pack leader though.
I shall not be following such lame examples of humanity.

going to throw your dummies out of the pram now & bar me.
and i have screen printed everything i need.

what a joke Typology central versus humanity = nothing
 

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I think an evil person is one who it gives pain to love. If you cannot see them as being able to become good or understand why it is they do what they do then they are monsters. They are anathema. In such a state there can be no forgiveness and thus no reconciliation.

well who am i to argue you have over a thousand post experience of these
worthless f*cks. I am a newbie. Basically to the few good we go up against
hundreds of bad. I should have obeyed my life lesson few good many many
bad behind there false masks with their hearts of hate.your right worthless
bunch of F*ckers not worth fighting for.I just wanted to save Kids.

By the way F*ckers i am well aware most of you are sociopathic this
is why this site never achieves nothing of any worth to the real world.

It is good to hopefully still have you as a friend although i think I shall be
leaving soon lol

If I am thrown off we will be meeting again, death is your great equaliser
not mine or uniquemixtures, bitchings shall be handed out old skool style :)
That is what she requested no forgiveness that is what you shall recieve.
this the point uniquemixture or scum. i pick uniquemixture.

I am a soft ass but i am picking up the speed in real life & you stand up no
better under scrutiny. You even pander rasist sh*te on here & INTP central.
Saying you would not out racist scum but calling people on here of many
races friends. hypocrysy to the hippocratic oath, whatevetr that means it just
sound good.

the good guys & gals on here can get nowhere because your just a bunch of
lame, sad, selfish wannabees always trying to outdo someone else because
your so lame never making progress because your minds and ears are closed
to thoughts of others except your like worthless ilk.

I only created eve so i shall take my eve, uniquemixture

The rest of you are Sc*m. Listen to bullet from a gun : derek B
died 44. H8 O15 P16 E5 = 44

Christopher

C / his/ Hope

Thorpe

Hope

yes i am always waiting and always get the last laugh, aphrodie,
now, tommorow, someday. you are mortal vengence shall be mine.

you will wake from death on the Cross, enjoy :) as will all other
bad F*ckers on this site, be seeing you real soon :)
 

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well who am i to argue you have over a thousand post experience of these
worthless f*cks. I am a newbie. Basically to the few good we go up against
hundreds of bad. I should have obeyed my life lesson few good many many
bad behind there false masks with their hearts of hate.your right worthless
bunch of F*ckers not worth fighting for.I just wanted to save Kids.
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Take your meds, man.
 
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