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    I have been wondering...how many people have heard of therianthropes & otherkin? A therian is someone who identifies as an earthly animal. An otherkin is someone who identifies as a mythical, or unearthly creature. There is alot of debate as to whether therians are otherkin or something separate entirely. It is possible to be both otherkin & a therian. There are so many ways to classify the identity's causes that range from spirituality to psychology to hertidge. I identify as a grey wolf therian. I believe it to be spiritual as well as due in part to my Irish hertidge (my grandma said that we are related to a tribe that believed they were werewolves). Of course, therians (and otherkin) can not change shape physically (the concept of a physical change is frowned upon in most of the therian/otherkin communities), but some of us do have changes. These changes are usually of the mind (i.e. mental shifts: the change from human mindset to a more unhuman mindset, and phantom shifts: the feeling associated with a limb that isn't there).

    I figure I should tell you how I discovered myself.

    I was drawn to my mom & dad’s friend’s wolf-dog hybrid (though that could of been because I was young). I would act like a wolf and I had no word for it for years. There was times when I was told that it was unacceptable to howl, and walk on all fours (when I was 12). So I quit. I kind of lost the wolf-ish feeling. So than I felt normal, human. Than I started getting a feline feeling. This was probably because most of my time was spent near cats (because my grandmother’s dog was old & had cancer & couldn’t play). So, I suppose I got the energy from the felines (like a cameo-shift) and started acting like them. I was confused because I usally felt wolf-like. Since I was 13 up until I was 15…I thought I was a feline but I went through phases (like fallen angel, dragon, neko-mata, etc). Those all turned out to be cameo-shift type deals. I actually went into a hospital for some self-harm issues at one point. We had something called relaxation (nature noises and quiet basically). I took my time meditating (everyday for almost 3 weeks). All the same, wolf. Grey wolf. I told this one girl about it. She actually told me before I told her my type. “You know what, you have wolf ears, and a tail sometimes…like in your aura”. Whether she was goofing or not, I don’t know. A few days after getting out I thought I had changed my type various times. Only to always feel like a wolf after I came out of the phases. So that concludes my spiritual search for my theriotype and why I think I am a wolf therian.
    For all I know I could just be delusional. Anyways, to clear up a weird term; a cameo shift is when a therian shifts to an animal that is not their theriotype. As you can see, I shifted into a housecat a few times and was like that for a while.

    If you need some differences of therianthropy from other things, I will quote this from another site:
    Therianthropy vs. clinical lycanthropy

    Spiritual therianthropy is not automatically the same as clinical lycanthropy, a mental illness in which an individual believes he or she belongs to or can change to another species. While some therianthropes believe they can take on the mindset of their "other side" in what is referred to as a mental shift, they usually believe that they retain control during these transformations and are no greater danger to themselves or others.
    Likewise, people who call themselves shapechangers as a form of social identification are generally not considered ill by mental health professionals unless their beliefs interfere with the normal functioning of their lives. This can be a controversial issue, as the line between what the Western mind passes off as a strange or alternative belief and what is considered a mental illness is indistinct.


    Therianthropy vs. multiple or split personality

    Most therians do not assert that they have multiple or split personality (also known as dissociative identity disorder) in the clinical sense. That said, since therianthropy involves at least the inner experience of dual (ie human and non-human) natures of some kind, it is reasonable to expect that the two may seem on the surface to share in common at least some dissociative traits.

    At least one key difference seems to be that most therians see this as being part of their nature, rather than a dysfunction or psychological defence mechanism, thus it is often valued rather than hoped to be "cured". Another is that for dissociative identity disorder, the other personalities represent usually other or the same human personalities, and specifically fragments of repressed, alternative or childlike personality representative of the defence, that is (in laymens terms), they may represent the anger a person has, or the cunning, they may represent the splitting of personality to protect the mind in the aftermath of a traumatic sexual abuse, an alcoholic vs a sober personality, and so on.

    Phenomenologically, this is very different from the consistently identified range of features of the therian personality and experience.

    Therianthropy vs. body dysmorphic disorder (BDD)

    In some cases, one could probably classify therianthropy as a form of dysmorphia (a non-clinical term meaning a strongly held belief that one is not in the body that one should be in, or a general dissatisfaction with the form or capabilities of one's appearance). In that sense, therians who feel this way are similar to those who seek gender reassignment, or who undergo body modification in other ways.

    While some therians feel that their human body could be improved by being more animal-like, their desires in this direction have little to do with the desire to be normal or beautiful that usually characterizes BDD and eating disorders, or the dissatisfaction with a particular appendage that plagues the apotemnophiliac. It is more similar to transsexualism and gender identity disorder, where there is a persistent feeling that one "should have been" the other gender and a feeling of discomfort or inappropriateness about playing one's biological gender role, rather than looking for acceptance from others.

    as in those who regard themselves as essentially non-human animals in human bodies. The terms species dysphoria and transspeciesism have occasionally been used to refer to the latter phenomenon, in parallel with the concepts of gender dysphoria and transsexuality.

    Although only superficial body change (rather than major biological transformation) is surgically possible at this time, the request for surgical modification of the teeth (canine implants or by vampire lifestylers) is common enough that it is now a well-documented form of cosmetic dental surgery that is readily available in many places to those seeking it. Similarly, the recent trend towards more extreme and/or more realistic tattooing in the neo-tribal and modern primitive veins has seen a sharp rise in humans sporting large patches of naturalistic or stylized animal pattern tattooing (zebra, leopard, etc.) - nearly whole-body in the cases of the most extreme practitioners. Other forms of body modification such as horns, ear shaping (cat, elf, or vulcan style), and the like are already available, albeit uncommonly as of this writing. It is likely that over time, other elective surgical procedures of this kind will become available.





    Therianthropy vs. furry fandom

    Therianthropy should not be confused with furry fandom or the furry lifestyle, though some intermixing of the groups does occur. As a general rule, to an extent, therianthropes are more focused on the sense of an animal within, an animal side to their nature, or spiritual concepts; by contrast, furries are more commonly focused on furry art and/or role-playing related to anthropomorphic non-humans. There is some overlap with those who identify themselves with each group or view the other positively, as well as those in each group who view the other negatively.

    Stereotypically, it is said that furries view therianthropy as "taking it too far" or "too seriously", while therianthropes assert that furries are frivolous, juvenile, and/or don't respect or understand the true nature of animals.
    That site I linked to has some good information on therians & otherkin (though not very accurate). Let the discussion begin
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    Sounds like an idealization and idolization of animals.
    Animals live almost their entire lives under extreme stress and pain and usually die in terrible ways. They can't think about higher concepts, they have no future beyond surviving, they can't collaborate and make great works or societies. These animals are simple, they wake up, eat, sleep, die. There isn't some spiritual complexity to be found. Humans are the only animal to have any kind of spirituality or philosophy.
    I can't imagine why you'd want to be anything but a sentient organism in a cohesive society.
    That's just my opinion, and while I won't give you a nice smile and say "Whatever you like!" I won't try and convince you not to be a "Therain". God knows I've got my fair share of quirks too.
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    I read about it when I was researching the furry fandom... Isn't it more like the idetification with animal archetypes, rather than the critters themselves, though? Like totems?
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    This is so coool! I used to do this with "the nanos." Now I use it to pick up other people's energy (without taking it).
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    I read about it when I was researching the furry fandom... Isn't it more like the idetification with animal archetypes, rather than the critters themselves, though? Like totems?
    Some people think it is about totems, some people say it's to do with reincarnation. It's whatever someone makes it out to be.
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