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    Certainly the strongest motivation to keep an organism alive is pleasure. The role of pleasure is to inspire the organism to perform actions to survive and reproduce. Any activity whose deprivation causes us such a lack of pleasure in us that we act irrationally and even maniacally to its absence is an addiction.

    We should overcome our irrational addictions for life and all stupid nature mechanisms that preclude us from seeing the truth of reality.
    Also, death is the endpoint uncovered by the quest to overcome prejudice in the name of enlightenment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siltha View Post
    Any activity whose deprivation causes us such a lack of pleasure in us that we act irrationally and even maniacally to its absence is an addiction.
    Incorrect.

    This assumes that we only care about the immediate gains. It doesn't consider future payoffs and discards the act of investing as valuable.

    The most serious offense here is that it lays the groundwork for the idea that planning is bad. Goals, planning, investing, future thinking are all sin. The choices hereafter are nihilism and hedonism. Once you are tired of both, you will have another existential crisis.

    why is this a sin? because it removes self regulation and individual sovereignty. It removes the spiritual elements of liberty for which its opposite manifests; tyranny.

    good luck.
    "People often say that this or that person has not yet found himself. But the self is not something one finds; it is something one creates." - Thomas Szasz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    You mindless slaves!
    God created man and man created Jaguar, (a bot.)
    If life is God and God is man and man is robot, then what is a Jaguar and what is man and life anyway?
    Any questions?



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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    God created man and man created Jaguar, (a bot.)
    If life is God and God is man and man is robot, then what is a Jaguar and what is man and life anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    God created man and man created Jaguar, (a bot.)
    If life is God and God is man and man is robot, then what is a Jaguar and what is man and life anyway?
    But why would God name a robot after an animal? Are robot and animal one?

    This means that man is animal. Man is robot, and robot is animal. God is robot and animal.

    God is an automaton. God is primal.

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    Excuse me, but the Jaguar was created by Fender...!

    what a beautiful little thing:


    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    God created man and man created Jaguar, (a bot.)
    If life is God and God is man and man is robot, then what is a Jaguar and what is man and life anyway?
    Any questions?



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    For us feeble humans life is close to pointless, but for a galactic super civilization, life is ultimate control over the forces of the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    For us feeble humans life is close to pointless, but for a galactic super civilization, life is ultimate control over the forces of the universe.
    So, you're the futuristic version of @Victor ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post
    So, you're the futuristic version of @Victor ?
    I am very present moment oriented generally, except concerning the Ultimate Destiny of humans, but I do know of good future quotes by Tesla:

    “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine”
    ― Nikola Tesla

    “All that was great in the past was ridiculed, condemned, combated, suppressed — only to emerge all the more powerfully, all the more triumphantly from the struggle.”
    ― Nikola Tesla
    “The future will show whether my foresight is as accurate now as it has proved heretofore.”
    “The spread of civilization may be likened to a fire; First, a feeble spark, next a flickering flame, then a mighty blaze, ever increasing in speed and power.”
    A single ray of light from a distant star falling upon the eye of a tyrant in bygone times, may have altered the course of his life, may have changed the destiny of nations, may have transformed the surface of the globe, so intricate, so inconceivably complex are the processes of nature.”
    “Of all the frictional resistances, the one that most retards human movement is ignorance, what Buddha called 'the greatest evil in the world.' The friction which results from ignorance can be reduced only by the spread of knowledge and the unification of the heterogeneous elements of humanity. No effort could be better spent.”
    “The scientific man does not aim at an immediate result. He does not expect that his advanced ideas will be readily taken up. His work is like that of a planter -- for the future. His duty is to lay foundation of those who are to come and point the way.”
    “We are whirling through endless space, with and inconceivable speed, all around everything is spinning, everything is moving, everywhere there is energy. There must be some way of availing ourselves of this energy more directly. Then, with the light obtained from the medium, with the power derived from it, with every form of energy obtained without effort, from the store forever inexhaustible, humanity will advance with giant strides. The mere contemplation of these magnificent possibilities expand our minds, strengthens our hopes and and fills our hearts with supreme delight.”
    “The progressive development of man is vitally dependent on invention. It is the most important product of his creative brain. Its ultimate purpose is the complete mastery of mind over the material world, the harnessing of the forces of nature to human needs. This is the difficult task of the inventor who is often misunderstood and unrewarded. But he finds ample compensation in the pleasing exercises of his powers and in the knowledge of being one of that exceptionally privileged class without whom the race would have long ago perished in the bitter struggle against pitiless elements. Speaking for myself, I have already had more than my full measure of this exquisite enjoyment; so much, that for many years my life was little short of continuous rapture.”
    “The day when we shall know exactly what “electricity” is, will chronicle an event probably greater, more important than any other recorded in the history of the human race. The time will come when the comfort, the very existence, perhaps, of man will depend upon that wonderful agent.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    I am very present moment oriented generally, except concerning the Ultimate Destiny of humans, but I do know of good future quotes by Tesla:

    “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine”
    ― Nikola Tesla

    “All that was great in the past was ridiculed, condemned, combated, suppressed — only to emerge all the more powerfully, all the more triumphantly from the struggle.”
    ― Nikola Tesla
    “The future will show whether my foresight is as accurate now as it has proved heretofore.”
    “The spread of civilization may be likened to a fire; First, a feeble spark, next a flickering flame, then a mighty blaze, ever increasing in speed and power.”
    A single ray of light from a distant star falling upon the eye of a tyrant in bygone times, may have altered the course of his life, may have changed the destiny of nations, may have transformed the surface of the globe, so intricate, so inconceivably complex are the processes of nature.”
    “Of all the frictional resistances, the one that most retards human movement is ignorance, what Buddha called 'the greatest evil in the world.' The friction which results from ignorance can be reduced only by the spread of knowledge and the unification of the heterogeneous elements of humanity. No effort could be better spent.”
    “The scientific man does not aim at an immediate result. He does not expect that his advanced ideas will be readily taken up. His work is like that of a planter -- for the future. His duty is to lay foundation of those who are to come and point the way.”
    “We are whirling through endless space, with and inconceivable speed, all around everything is spinning, everything is moving, everywhere there is energy. There must be some way of availing ourselves of this energy more directly. Then, with the light obtained from the medium, with the power derived from it, with every form of energy obtained without effort, from the store forever inexhaustible, humanity will advance with giant strides. The mere contemplation of these magnificent possibilities expand our minds, strengthens our hopes and and fills our hearts with supreme delight.”
    “The progressive development of man is vitally dependent on invention. It is the most important product of his creative brain. Its ultimate purpose is the complete mastery of mind over the material world, the harnessing of the forces of nature to human needs. This is the difficult task of the inventor who is often misunderstood and unrewarded. But he finds ample compensation in the pleasing exercises of his powers and in the knowledge of being one of that exceptionally privileged class without whom the race would have long ago perished in the bitter struggle against pitiless elements. Speaking for myself, I have already had more than my full measure of this exquisite enjoyment; so much, that for many years my life was little short of continuous rapture.”
    “The day when we shall know exactly what “electricity” is, will chronicle an event probably greater, more important than any other recorded in the history of the human race. The time will come when the comfort, the very existence, perhaps, of man will depend upon that wonderful agent.”
    Yeah, I didn't read anything of that.

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