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    There are entire philosophies and some psychological schools of thought created around the idea of being life affirming or life affirmative and revering life, do you think that these are useful and a valuable contribution culturally or are these mistaken, creating a false dichotomy of life affirmative vs. life negating and placing those who do not conform to their ideas in the later category?

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    Yeah, I do think it's a false dichotemy because most of us value life over the alternative whether "pro-life" or not, some of us just value some forms of life more than others.

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    I like life. Does it have vaginal truth?
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    I am pro chosing life.
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    I sort of saw this thread going in the direction of there being no really "pro-death" thinking, with few exceptions even those that say otherwise imagine that there is some afterlife or vision of life which they are prepared to sacrifice for, although strange one line posts or mentioning vaginas is probably what I should have expected instead.

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    If you're not talking about abortion at all, you might want to edit the title, since pro-life is pretty much never used to mean anything other than anti-abortion people, so you might get derailed based on that...
    -end of thread-

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    Yeah, I do think it's a false dichotemy because most of us value life over the alternative whether "pro-life" or not, some of us just value some forms of life more than others.
    Yes. Reverence for life by any name so often comes with not just a double standard, but a many-layered standard. There is human life, animal life, plant life. Some view the earth itself as a living entity. Few people, however, accord the same respect to all forms of life, judging by their behavior. The Jains probably come closest, forebearing to eat even vegetables whose harvest involves killing the plant.

    The better question might be what does "reverence for life" mean to each of us, and how does that meaning inform our actions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I sort of saw this thread going in the direction of there being no really "pro-death" thinking, with few exceptions even those that say otherwise imagine that there is some afterlife or vision of life which they are prepared to sacrifice for
    I would suspect most of us are "pro-death". Which of us really wants the alternative - immortality, like the vampires of legend?
    I've been called a criminal, a terrorist, and a threat to the known universe. But everything you were told is a lie. The truth is, they've taken our freedom, our home, and our future. The time has come for all humanity to take a stand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    Yes. Reverence for life by any name so often comes with not just a double standard, but a many-layered standard. There is human life, animal life, plant life. Some view the earth itself as a living entity. Few people, however, accord the same respect to all forms of life, judging by their behavior. The Jains probably come closest, forebearing to eat even vegetables whose harvest involves killing the plant.

    The better question might be what does "reverence for life" mean to each of us, and how does that meaning inform our actions?


    I would suspect most of us are "pro-death". Which of us really wants the alternative - immortality, like the vampires of legend?
    Oh, interesting turn in the discussion!

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    What about the best of both worlds @Lark? Keep death, but make it non-permanent by re-sleeving the soul into a new body? That way your actions still matter/change your relationships, but not in a manner that is completely destructive.
    For all that we have done, as a civilization, as individuals, the universe is not stable, and nor is any single thing within it. Stars consume themselves, the universe itself rushes apart, and we ourselves are composed of matter in constant flux. Colonies of cells in temporary alliance, replicating and decaying and housed within, an incandescent cloud of electrical impulses. This is reality, this is self knowledge, and the perception of it will, of course, make you dizzy.

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    Sometimes I think all this reverence for life is naive and romantic in the worst sense of the word. Sometimes I think we're just stuff that recycles itself into more stuff and it's all pretty much pointless. You can revere it all or not -- it doesn't care. I think it's pretty clear that as human beings we don't much give a damn. We are constantly at war and constantly polluting every aspect of the planet. Until some of that stops enough that it's an abnormal state of affairs rather than business as usual, I can't see any discussion about reverence for life being anything but hot air.

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