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    It sounds like a parable for not letting a prideful attitude make you content to not live your life and not being connected. Reminds me of enneagram 5s and their propensity to hoard and compartmentalize out of an insecurity with being engaged. The farmer can't be sure of anything, but doing everything within his power and within reason will let him truly rest easy, while indulging will paradoxically make him restless knowing that he could be continuing to prepare for disaster. Farming, I imagine, was an unpredictable business, much like life itself.


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    Sounds like the man in the parable is very judging-oriented, and that this god(s) character is very perceiving...and petulant and juvenile. It's like the grasshopper and the ants, in reverse. Maybe god(s) actually wanted humans to remain hunter-gatherers, since storing grain is precisely how one survived in an agrarian society. god(s) seems rather like a spoiled child in this particular parable, and the man simply cannot win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horrible Aesthete View Post
    Sounds like the man in the parable is very judging-oriented, and that this god(s) character is very perceiving...and petulant and juvenile. It's like the grasshopper and the ants, in reverse. Maybe god(s) actually wanted humans to remain hunter-gatherers, since storing grain is precisely how one survived in an agrarian society. god(s) seems rather like a spoiled child in this particular parable, and the man simply cannot win.
    Sometimes I wonder if an enlightened future society wouldnt be a less populated society of hunter gatherers, like william morris' epoch of rest

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    ^Is that a good read?
    I digress. Even hunter gathers stored food for winter. Those societies seemed more likely to be cooperative though, so it seems to me more about hoarding and counting your chickens before they hatched.
    I'm pretty sure there is a parable about grasshoppers singing all summer, and not storing food too.
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    The moral of the story is, don't keep the fruits of your labor to yourself. Give most of it to the king. If you don't, God will get ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalViolet View Post
    ^Is that a good read?
    I digress. Even hunter gathers stored food for winter. Those societies seemed more likely to be cooperative though, so it seems to me more about hoarding and counting your chickens before they hatched.
    I'm pretty sure there is a parable about grasshoppers singing all summer, and not storing food too.
    Epoch of rest is the subtitle or theme of News From Nowhere, I think its a great read, at least until about just over halfway through after they've met the guys working on the road and gone on to talk to the book collector who hates the socialist paradise.

    In Morris' book words like capitalism and socialism and their attendent meanings are long forgotten, so is government and the houses of parliament are derelict and used to keep manure, books are all reproduced by hand, if they are at all, anything created, like for instance a pipe at one point, are ornate and bespoke, a work of a craftsman trying to produce their best and people engage in public works as a means of fitness training and bodybuilding. Everything is done slowly and there is no rush, there is no pollution and the changed pace of life and healthy lifestyle means that in the parochial, pastoral, post-urban world everyone lives for a long, long time and thrives on good neighbourliness.

    It really is the king of utopias, although it was meant to incorporate Morris' awareness of the genre and some dystopian or at least realistic points, ie art and publishing and public culture have disappeared and its all a bit like noon day Spain/mediterranean living. It was also written as an objection to the popularity of Edward Bellamy's utopia in Looking Backward in which monopolies and bureaucracy have created a "utopia" which resembles just the present day today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if an enlightened future society wouldnt be a less populated society of hunter gatherers, like william morris' epoch of rest
    Sounds good to me.

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