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    Lightbulb Intrinsic morality

    Do you believe there is such a thing as intrinsic morality? Why or why not?

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    Yes. I think that biological imperatives naturally result in some kind of code of morality, even among the creatures driven more by instinct than intellect.

    I'm assuming their complexity grows in proportion to the complexity of the civilization which is why we as humans have felt the need to create such a variety of moral structures, but the most fundamental things seem to be somewhat universal.

    "Evil", stripped of its moral connotations, seems ultimately to be another term for "maladaptive".

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    you're an enfp aren't ya? op person
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    I don't know. Probably not. There are supernovas that destroy everything in their wake. What if there were nearby civilizations involved (again, what if)? Or even just animal life? Theoretically, they're just getting wiped out in a flash, in the most senseless manner. I myself think it's pretty depressing and unjust. But the universe doesn't. Apparently.

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    I think if intrinsic morality exists, it shows that the strong eat the weak. Then you just have to suck it up and deal with it.
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    @Blank do you think it is emotionally healthy to think that way? I allow myself to have a lot of non-rational/spiritual experiences because black and white reality can appear pretty grim. I have hope that maaaybe just maaybe. It is not as grim as it seems.

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    you're an enfp aren't ya? op person
    Sure why not? . No, I probably am not unless temperament can change. I really like enfps. In some ways I have found certain varieties to be my ideal woman. I think because of this I act in ways/have thinking patterns that are there to bring them into my life. Also, I've just noticed how successful enfp behaviors can be in real life so I adopted them for social situations because they work. I've probably internalized it by this point, but my natural proclivities are otherwise (for example by sounding like a douche by using words like proclivities )

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    Quote Originally Posted by UniqueMixture View Post
    @Blank do you think it is emotionally healthy to think that way? I allow myself to have a lot of non-rational/spiritual experiences because black and white reality can appear pretty grim. I have hope that maaaybe just maaybe. It is not as grim as it seems.
    It depends. Some would argue that it's healthy to face the facts. Others would argue that it's not really necessary. Some people can handle it. Others can't. Even if it's true, it doesn't necessarily have to get in the way of one enjoying life and the time s/he spends together with others.
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    Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly;
    Man got to sit and wonder why, why, why;
    Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land;
    Man got to tell himself he understand

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    I dont believe that an intrinsic morality exists, there is rather an intrinsic pragmatism; like dont beat me if you dont want to be beaten yourself. Of course evolution is defined by mavericks so I too think that you cant make a general statement for them all.
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    I guess to me there is, but it doesn't tell you WHAT to do but rather creates relationships based on those actions

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