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    Default "It's the thought that counts."

    Is a socially unacceptable thought equally as abhorrent as a socially unacceptable action?

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    That depends on the context. Certainly thinking about stabbing your boss in the face is socially unacceptable, but it's not really punishable by law until you begin actively planning to do it...but we also condemn racists for having socially unacceptable views as much as those who actually commit hate crimes (within reason.)

    Some thoughts you have no control over. What if you (accidentally or not) harmed someone in a dream? You technically thought about it on some level. Should you be punished for it? (Maybe you will if your religion demands it, but it's not something that could be enforced.)


    Not to go too off-topic: when I think of the phrase "it's the thought that counts," it tends to apply in a context in which someone has failed to appease someone else despite their effort...or if something is unappreciated. To me, the thought behind this thread is closer to the saying "the path to hell is lined in good intentions."

    Nevertheless, we often say "actions speak louder than words." So while it may be "bad" to think about something awful, it's "worse" to actually do it.
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    You are misusing the phrase, it doesent apply to that type of thing, it never even meant to mean that..
    "Where wisdom reigns, there is no conflict between thinking and feeling."
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    Equally abhorrent, they dont have the same consequences though.

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    You don't know what someone is thinking.
    You can experience what someone does and it has lingering effects upon others.

    Considering how someone can have thoughts without having much choice in the thinking of them, but does have some degree of control over actions, it seems that actions are more reflective of moral inclination than thoughts.

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    You are misusing the phrase, it doesent apply to that type of thing, it never even meant to mean that..
    Yes, is it morally wrong to hijack a thought and press it into servitude to serve one's basest unrelated argument? The inquiring mind wants to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    Is a socially unacceptable thought equally as abhorrent as a socially unacceptable action?
    I say "no". Actions speak louder than words.

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    Absolutely not. Thoughts without actions have far less consequences. Furthermore, it's not practical to consider them because they are much harder, if not impossible, to monitor.
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    No need to get caught up in the phrase. It doesn't make sense to title it "Actions speak louder than words" because words are actions.

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    I think you can summarize this issue with a philosophical quote from Oscar Wilde.

    "If a tree falls in the forest, does anyone get raped?"

    - Oscar Wilde

    When you read this, you start to see what Oscar was getting at. Go ahead & think. Don't rape anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    Is a socially unacceptable thought equally as abhorrent as a socially unacceptable action?
    In short, no.
    "The purpose of life is to be defeated by greater and greater things." - Rainer Maria Rilke

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