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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    I like how the video is posted in such a way as nothing is in the post.
    Me too
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    Wow, that video sucks.

    "OH LOOK AT ME, I'M SO OPEN-MINDED!"

    Do you masturbate to Dawkins, @Salomé? I bet you do, you little zealot you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmileyMan View Post
    Wow, that video sucks.

    "OH LOOK AT ME, I'M SO OPEN-MINDED!"

    Do you masturbate to Dawkins, Salomé? I bet you do, you little fanatic you.
    I dont think the point was to show how open-minded the guy who made the video is, but to explain why some people who think that they are open minded, are actually really close-minded
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmileyMan View Post
    Wow, that video sucks.

    "OH LOOK AT ME, I'M SO OPEN-MINDED!"

    Do you masturbate to Dawkins, @Salomé ? I bet you do, you little zealot you.
    Do you masturbate to my posts? You seem to follow me around like a drooling poodle.

    I mostly enjoyed the comments. They were all hilarious. For assorted reasons. Apart from yours. Which are retarded. As usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Do you masturbate to my posts? You seem to follow me around like a drooling poodle.
    Maybe.

    You didn't answer the question.

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    I hate and despise Dawkins as I hate and despise all INTJs.

    /open-minded
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    I hate and despise Dawkins as I hate and despise all INTJs.

    /open-minded
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    I think the scientific process is well intentioned to discover more but ultimately would have to be defined as the more close-minded paridigm because it's in constant denial that truth exists before proof ever does or could. In science, truth is only determined to exist once the empirical framework of proof has been built under it, yet truth is totally independent of our means of proving it. Therefore there is no objective person, but only truth and different tolerances for believing it. Since there is no objectively true person (besides Jesus Christ but know I am suspending my knowledge to write this) then there is no absolutely objective human methodologies, only religions which attempt to reflect truth to varying degrees of success, science being the most successful because by its nature is to rigorously isolate itself from anything personal.

    Science seeks to isolate itself from anything personal because, as I said, there is no objectively true person. Therefore, it is an disillusioned jump in reason to think we have created an absolutely objective methodology. To do so is to merely believe in science rather than truth, and a person only does this because they have a low tolerance of belief. You may intuit now, correctly, that believing in science will never be the same as believing the truth. It is better, and more true, to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvidenceOfRedemption View Post
    I think the scientific process is well intentioned to discover more but ultimately would have to be defined as the more close-minded paridigm because it's in constant denial that truth exists before proof ever does or could. In science, truth is only determined to exist once the empirical framework of proof has been built under it, yet truth is totally independent of our means of proving it. Therefore there is no objective person, but only truth and different tolerances for believing it.
    You are using the same word for two different things. When you speak of scientific truth, you speak of a predicate that is attributed to propositions that correctly describe the world. When you speak of the other truth, you speak of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    You are using the same word for two different things. When you speak of scientific truth, you speak of a predicate that is attributed to propositions that correctly describe the world. When you speak of the other truth, you speak of the world.
    How can I speak of the world as the other truth if the world predominately believes in scientific truth?

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