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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    These states hardly even prove anything concrete let alone hold any sort of relevance to reality you must be joking.
    It's funny how this applies to everything you've said so far.

    That graph shows that "S" types have higher Iq than "N" types.
    Not sure how you got that. No it shows the opposite.

    Depending on the content of the Iq tests they are also favored towards intuitive style thinking.
    That's a completely empty statement. Expanding that logic would mean that any measurements would be normalized with everything else and have the same value? What justifies this ?

    Oh wow a group of people who consider to themselves "N" but are in low population count have a higher Iq than a higher population group "S". It must mean N have higher Iq (...)
    Yes thank you for stating the obvious
    (...) or maybe people are really "S" and just say they are "N".
    That's your angry opinion and it has nothing to do with the data and the correlation I've made. You are irrational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Oh wow a group of people who consider to themselves "N" but are in low population count have a higher Iq than a higher population group "S". It must mean N have higher Iq or maybe people are really "S" and just say they are "N". Maybe older people magically change from "s" to "N" when they reach 50. Too many variables the graph is a joke.
    Do you even know what correlation means? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    if N is correlated with IQ it's only natural that a rise in average IQ would lead to a raise in Ns. That's just the data, not some wild interpretation.
    Actually you cant draw that conclusion from the two factors(raise of iq and correlation with iq and N). It would only work if S types would have 0 iq. The possibility that both S and N types have higher iq today than 50 years ago isnt controlled in any ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    You do know that openness to experience(in big5) lowers by age and is correlated to N. But its not the N that goes down, its simply that N types answer to those tests to more S type as they age.
    Why would you assume this? If people answer less N answers then why would it be different from 'BEING' less N with age. Is there even a difference? What counts is the results of the test. That's the data.

    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Did i really have to explain this if you already knew about flynn effect?
    Well, I'm sorry if I didn't just find your broken logic to be self evident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Actually you cant draw that conclusion from the two factors(raise of iq and correlation with iq and N). It would only work if S types would have 0 iq. The possibility that both S and N types have higher iq today than 50 years ago isnt controlled in any ways.
    You do realize that your assumption would only work if the N\iq correlation was much lower, right?
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    It's funny watching two Ns try to teach an S how to properly interpret data.

    And how fitting that he can't figure out that the data shows that Ss are less intelligent than Ns.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    It's funny watching two Ns try to teach an S how to properly interpret data.

    And how fitting that he doesn't understand why the data shows that Ss are less intelligent than Ns.



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    ... of course that's been useless since I gave up on lying
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    Why would you assume this? If people answer less N answers then why would it be different from 'BEING' less N with age. Is there even a difference? What counts is the results of the test. That's the data.


    Well, I'm sorry if I didn't just find your broken logic to be self evident.
    Okay, so the problem is that you arent aware of what myers briggs indicator actually is. I suggest watching this video to get better understanding about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I happen to have a degree in interpreting data to the point where I'm quite talented at lying with numbers

    ... of course that's been useless since I gave up on lying
    I'm not saying all Ss are stupid.

    That's obviously not what the data shows.

    But c'mon, you have to agree that this situation is hilarious.

    An S totally misinteprets a data set, thinking that it says Ss are actually more intelligent than Ns...

    And in all the argumentation about it afterwards, it's clear that he lacks the intellectual capacity to understand the data...

    I mean, that's just hilarious...


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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Okay, so the problem is that you arent aware of what myers briggs indicator actually is. I suggest watching this video to get better understanding about it
    okey I will watch your video and comment afterwards. My first answer would be that the MBTI is a test where people self report their preferences in terms of attitudes and types of behavior they prefer to engage in. That's what the test does at least, any other statement about it would seem like an opinion rather than something that can be observed directly and quantified
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