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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Actually N has been found to correlate with religious beliefs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Thar 90-109 tier is both under and above average iq..
    What is the average of 90 and 110?
    Also its irrelevant wether you have same chances of getting over 110 iq from random sample if you compare S vs N iq, because there are more S types around.. you need to have same amount of S and N people in the group where random samples are taken for you to be able to compare S vs N iq statistically from that study.
    No shit. Not the point, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    S people are actually N types
    Not according to the study. But I assume you know best. Also if you accept that 'some S could score N' then the opposite is true. Are you talking about some test uncertainty that would tend to underestimate the number of Ns. More S than Ns and an equal uncertainty per individual who are borderline S\N leading to a higher number of S types? That sort of things is bound to happen, that's why btw the researchers did not focus on slight statistical tendencies but only the much stronger S\N to IQ correlation.

    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    and like everyone propably knows, iq tests has gotten harder and bla bla bla
    What does that have to do with anything? All tests were passed at the time of the study
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    What is the average of 90 and 110?
    Same as the average of 0 and 200. You cant say that everyone with 0 to 200 iq has average iq, even tho everyone(okay few people in the world has over 200iq, but you should get the point) stands in the range of 0-200 and average of 0 and 200 is 100..
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    ^^ guys i don't think that's the point of the thread. I just meant to say that there are NUMEROUS studies showing a high negative correlation between iq and religiousness and a high negative correlation between N and IQ hence my statement of a negative correlation between N traits and religiousness.
    Please note that i'm talking about religiousness and members of religious institutions in particular rather than the belief in the metaphysical and all the less easily quantifiable and standardized data relating to such wide range of beliefs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    Not according to the study. But I assume you know best. Also if you accept that 'some S could score N' then the opposite is true. Are you talking about some test uncertainty that would tend to underestimate the number of Ns. More S than Ns and an equal uncertainty per individual who are borderline S\N leading to a higher number of S types? That sort of things is bound to happen, that's why btw the researchers did not focus on slight statistical tendencies but only the much stronger S\N to IQ correlation.


    What does that have to do with anything? All tests were passed at the time of the study
    Well i have seen few studies that show correlation with religious beliefs and N. But do show the studies that show otherwise

    And for that other part: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelli...t#Flynn_effect and read that age thing also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    Oh, you have stats. Where might those be? I didn't see a link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Well i have seen few studies that show correlation with religious beliefs and N. But do show the studies that show otherwise

    And for that other part: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelli...t#Flynn_effect and read that age thing also.
    Well possibly. But that is made unlikely by the well documented double correlation I mentioned. Are you sure they mean MBTI N (very different from 'intuition' aka 'i can't prove it but i just feel it' generally observed in cases of religious delusion)

    I know about the flynn effect, thank you. It also fits with the raise in 'N' types in more recent generations and the N\iq correlation. I had thought about all that already. Ne, ya know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    Sure, and athletic competition favor athletes. Any other empty statement to add?
    No but your graph is useless and doesn't say anything really important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    No but your graph is useless and doesn't say anything really important.
    It does say alot about your subjectivity. It directly addresses a point the OP raised. You on the other hand stated the usual feel good politically correct statement of 'x doesnt mean anyything if it doesn't say we are all exactly the same'.
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
    Richard Feynman's last recorded words

    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
    Mencius (Meng-Tse), 4th century BCE

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