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    ^You have to think about that in its historical context.

    Women also were not allowed to cut their hair. What one must question is why one requirement is still adhered to rigidly (in some faiths) whilst the other is considered out of date. This is a political and not a religious question.
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    It's important to note that while oppression does occur often within the church (and pretty much everywhere else in society) technically many Christians don't believe submission to necessarily mean unequal. This is made most obvious in the trinity where Jesus submits to the father, but is equal to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    ^You have to think about that in its historical context.

    Women also were not allowed to cut their hair. What one must question is why one requirement is still adhered to rigidly (in some faiths) whilst the other is considered out of date. This is a political and not a religious question.
    From a historical perspective it's not religious, but for those who would take everything in the Bible to heart, it brings a more religious question up: Why cherry pick from religious doctrine? The answer is more political and has more to do with the preference of protestants - I can't help but to suspect protestant males. So yeah. I hope I'm making sense.

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    ^Not really, but we're used to that.
    It's important to note that while oppression does occur often within the church (and pretty much everywhere else in society) technically many Christians don't believe submission to necessarily mean unequal. This is made most obvious in the trinity where Jesus submits to the father, but is equal to him.
    Christians have this way of twisting logic that is outstanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Christians have this way of twisting logic that is outstanding.
    Many of those who hate Christians have an amazing ability to be dismissive and avoid making real arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    Many of those who hate Christians have an amazing ability to be dismissive and avoid making real arguments.
    Who's hating?
    And who's being passive-aggressive?

    I've argued with Christians many, many times. It's pointless because faith doesn't respond to reason, and reason is all I have to offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Who's hating?
    And who's being passive-aggressive?

    I've argued with Christians many, many times. It's pointless because faith doesn't respond to reason, and reason is all I have to offer.
    It's your lack of generosity that bothers me. Christians are far more reasonable than most people. You simply disagree with the presuppositions we make. You may be able to point to some things that you find inconsistent, but the bottom line is you have faith in a different set of unprovable presuppositions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    It's your lack of generosity that bothers me. Christians are far more reasonable than most people. You simply disagree with the presuppositions we make. You may be able to point to some things that you find inconsistent, but the bottom line is you have faith in a different set of unprovable presuppositions.
    Yea but he doesnt kill for it
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    ^He could be persuaded.
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    It's your lack of generosity that bothers me.
    Here, have a blah, blah, blabbity blah.

    I heard you like those.

    /generous
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Yea but he doesnt kill for it
    Maybe, but I doubt Salome has a logically consistent reason for NOT killing people who disagree. Without God, being against murder only amounts to a preference, but at least you don't have to worry about being oppressed... Until you encounter someone with a different preference and an inclination to kill you.
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