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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    by this logic language also proves that god exists. The only thing your statement seems to show is your complete lack of grasp over logic
    Save your judgments and read more carefully. I explicitly avoided the word "proof" and specifically chose the word "sign".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    Save your judgments and read more carefully. I explicitly avoided the word "proof" and specifically chose the word "sign".
    And I used to word demonstrate. Lets have a spelling be
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    And I used to word demonstrate. Lets have a spelling be
    Lol... After you edited it. See my quote above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    Okay, that makes sense. It's sad how churches skew the truth, and push people away. I was only referring to what is taught in the Bible.
    Well, the reason that there's such a problem with that in the church is because they've made a case that the Bible is teaching it.

    I think a textual analysis leads to other conclusions, but apparently reading things verbatim in some portions of OT and NT have given people what seems to be a case to promote patriarchal society. If it didn't, the church wouldn't be so inundated with that way of thinking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    Save your judgments and read more carefully. I explicitly avoided the word "proof" and specifically chose the word "sign".
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    Lol... After you edited it. See my quote above.
    Yes, I edited in fear of your mastery of rhetorics. That is so likely
    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
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    I am not Christian nor do I believe in original sin as the fallout of Adam and Eve, but I do believe in it in the sense that we are all beings haunted by pain and impulse and self-directed hostility, all of which drive us to act in ways that do not serve to benefit ourselves or others. I also do believe in the sins of the fathers being passed down to the sons in the sense that we inherit our family's neuroses.

    I think these are more truths of the human condition than anything to do with dogma - unsurprising that they made it into such a large tome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater
    If there is no God then we are all just the consequence of chemical reactions. There is no inherent difference between birth and murder.
    Besides in the stirrings we feel in response to the advent of new life and the loss of someone close and meaningful to us; besides in the difference between pleasure and pain; besides in the difference between creating a world that is safe and truthful and kind and one that is tormented and deceitful and unfair; besides in making life something we want to live versus something we want to run from.

    The existence of God makes little difference in the basic tenet that we should live a moral life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    Yes, I edited in fear of your mastery of rhetorics. That is so likely
    I don't know why you changed it nor do I care. I think it's funny that you're nitpicking at some offhand remark and ignoring my broader argument.
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    OMG, dude. He didn't change it.
    Do you always see what you want to see rather than what's really there?
    Look who I'm asking...
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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