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    Yeah, I haven't heard of Thers as being a god, either.

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    The concept of god is a misunderstunding, really its just an projection of your own unconscious mind. So there is god, but its you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blank View Post
    And we have killed him.
    People seem to always forget that there was a Holy Scripture to be fulfilled. The Holy Scripture is acutally God's promise to Adam and Eve that he will send a Saviour to reopen the Gates of Heaven.

    Jesus had to die in order to take our sins, realeas the good ones from the fires of hell and reopen Heaven's Gates.

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    some force or power that started this mess we're in and keeps it going for some bizarre reason.
    Wrong. God createa a perfect world that used to like in suprem harmony until we came. WE createad weapons and viruses, WE started to kill each other, WE started to destroy everything around for OUR greedy reasons.

    Don't blame God for the mess WE have created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraska View Post
    Wrong. God createa a perfect world that used to like in suprem harmony until we came. WE createad weapons and viruses, WE started to kill each other, WE started to destroy everything around for OUR greedy reasons.

    Don't blame God for the mess WE have created.
    Because god is in all humans(their unconscious), we can blame god or some evil god/devil, its just blaming each other, but wheres the point in that?

    If we wouldnt had killed and created weapons(i consider stone axe as weapon) we wouldnt developed into humans we are today.

    World wasnt created perfect, humans created the world by killing animals and each others in the course of evolution. Or do you consider evolution(early humans found etc) as some trick that god uses to test our faith?

    Ps. Virus wasnt made by man..
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    Because god is in all humans(their unconscious), we can blame god or some evil god/devil, its just blaming each other, but wheres the point in that?

    If we wouldnt had killed and created weapons(i consider stone axe as weapon) we wouldnt developed into humans we are today.

    World wasnt created perfect, humans created the world by killing animals and each others in the course of evolution. Or do you consider evolution(early humans found etc) as some trick that god uses to test our faith?

    Ps. Virus wasnt made by man..
    God is not our unconciousness. It's nice to blame others for our conscious, wrong decisions but we both know it doesn't work like that.

    What make you belive that weapons developed us into what we are?

    Ps. The virus didn't appear out of nowhere. I don't mean those that give minor illnesses. But many of them were created in laboratories and are called biological weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraska View Post
    God is not our unconciousness. It's nice to blame others for our conscious, wrong decisions but we both know it doesn't work like that.

    What make you belive that weapons developed us into what we are?

    Ps. The virus didn't appear out of nowhere. I don't mean those that give minor illnesses. But many of them were created in laboratories and are called biological weapons.
    How do you reason god is not our unconsciousness?

    Weapons enabled us to survive. If there were no weapons, we simply wouldnt had survived in nature in early days, humans dont have claws or teeth like a lion, we cant run away from them and simply had no other way of protecting ourselves from predators..

    Viruses existed before man, even if we did make evolution of viruses faster in lab, that doesent mean that we created viruses..

    Your thinking is so sloppy its amusing lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    How do you reason god is not our unconsciousness?

    Weapons enabled us to survive. If there were no weapons, we simply wouldnt had survived in nature in early days, humans dont have claws or teeth like a lion, we cant run away from them and simply had no other way of protecting ourselves from predators..

    Viruses existed before man, even if we did make evolution of viruses faster in lab, that doesent mean that we created viruses..

    Your thinking is so sloppy its amusing lol

    God exists way before our creation. So how can He be the unconsciousness of something that didn't even existed?

    Weapons enabled us to protect ourselves from wild animals but that was not their original purpose. They were invented to invade the territory of other humanoid beings.

    By the way, who said that God is our unconsciousness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewomack View Post
    I believe in Spinoza's God, but many would argue it isn't a God at all, which is partly why I believe in "it." I do believe in some force or power that started this mess we're in and keeps it going for some bizarre reason. Though I wouldn't necessarily call that a "God" either, but we all seem to come from whatever it is regardless. "God" has become such a loaded word... but I definitely don't buy into any notions of anthropocentric Gods, a big Zeus-looking dude with a funky beard and robes who points his finger and smites the "evil-doers." I won't like a second helping of that, no...
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    i believe there is a reason for our existence, though i do not believe in a highly specific anthromorphic divinity. i assume the universal Force is much greater and more sublime than my cognitive facilities possess the power to conceptualize.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraska View Post
    Wrong. God createa a perfect world that used to like in suprem harmony until we came. WE createad weapons and viruses, WE started to kill each other, WE started to destroy everything around for OUR greedy reasons.

    Don't blame God for the mess WE have created.
    but in this scenario god made us loaded with all our problems, and god is omniscient, so god knew as he was making us that we would create a whole host of problems. that's akin to putting a kitten with a cold in a room with other kittens then punishing it for getting the other kittens sick. what was it going to do, not breathe? what should humans have done, locked themselves up in isolated chambers so they'd never make use of the flawed facilities that god gave them?

    imo god needs to take some responsibility here.

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    The two rules of atheism:

    1. There is no God.

    2. You hate him.

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