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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    Ah, I see. I've got no patience for purgatory. I'm going straight to the pearly gates and somebody better let me in. There are streets of gold and red Mustang with my name on it.


    I wish you well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post


    I wish you well.
    Surely heaven has a side gate. If you're not too tied up in purgatory, I'll sneak you in, and we can head to the track in our rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    Surely heaven has a side gate. If you're not too tied up in purgatory, I'll sneak you in, and we can head to the track in our rides.
    I think I'd like that, I envisage purgatory as an incredibly long processing march of people, so it could be an eventuality I guess.

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    spirit has many faces. all phenomena is transient. you are right to believe in existence of heaven or hell or alien abductions, as phenomena, but don't try to believe they are ultimate reality, because that belief will torture you. faith is concerned with trusting and accepting the ability and requirement of transition and transcendence, not with specific contents. with both being fully 'here' and letting go. if you are into holding on, then you must hold on to your life, because of all known phenomena, the concrete life in a human body is the one that allows for the most holding on. every move from here on takes away some of that control. all of this is not ideology, it's the conclusion i take from having my reality and identity ripped out of me, replaced with weirdest visions, that are interpreted as absolute reality, by the angst ridden desire to control one's experience. experiencing this connection of fear and the belief that the current experience is of absolute/ultimate reality is what makes the need for and nature of 'faith into transition' apparent. if there is any grace granted to us, in the actual death experience, it is that we may simply forget to hold on, to categorize in belief-terms like 'this is it' versus 'nah i don' trust that'. innocent naivete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I envisage purgatory as an incredibly long processing march of people, so it could be an eventuality I guess.
    I wonder how long that will last. If it's longer than about a day, they'll have to tie me down because I'll start looking for loopholes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    I wonder how long that will last. If it's longer than about a day, they'll have to tie me down because I'll start looking for loopholes out.
    lol... sounds more like regular-earth bureaucracy at this point, doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    I wonder how long that will last. If it's longer than about a day, they'll have to tie me down because I'll start looking for loopholes out.
    This is going to sound strange but it will be determined by each person walking that path, what's a day in eternity? Time ceases to have any meaning when life ends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    lol... sounds more like regular-earth bureaucracy at this point, doesn't it?

    "Wait, she butted line! And you're just letting HER into heaven first???"
    Yes, it does!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    This is going to sound strange but it will be determined by each person walking that path, what's a day in eternity? Time ceases to have any meaning when life ends.
    No, not strange. I think you're right on about that.

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    I just don't see how Kid Cudi is part of Heaven. Maybe I'm just naive.

    A sad story regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    I just don't see how Kid Cudi is part of Heaven. Maybe I'm just naive.

    A sad story regardless.
    It's part of 'his' heaven. As in it's what he wanted to see. Now as I said I don't believe in heaven, but on the off chance I am wrong I sure as hell (hihi) don't want it to be the same heaven people went to 2000 years ago. There better be boobs, snacks and videogames in mine, if you catch my drift.
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