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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Read it that way if you like, its not what I had intended.
    Strawman -- he didn't say he wasted time in kindergarten.
    Ad hominem -- "the key to the entire post is [the strawman]", the implication being that the rest of his points are not to be considered. And you mentioned the poster's personality which is completely irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    Strawman -- he didn't say he wasted time in kindergarten.
    Ad hominem -- "the key to the entire post is [the strawman]", the implication being that the rest of his points are not to be considered. And you mentioned the poster's personality which is completely irrelevant.
    Alright then, discussion's done then isnt it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    Strawman -- he didn't say he wasted time in kindergarten.
    Ad hominem -- "the key to the entire post is [the strawman]", the implication being that the rest of his points are not to be considered. And you mentioned the poster's personality which is completely irrelevant.
    Don't you see what Lark is trying to say, Evan? If the OP is a complete douche with no values, then surely the content of his post will be complete douchebaggery as well. Indeed, we can determine what he does on a daily basis, how he conducts himself, and what his real intentions are, but only as long as we completely ignore what he is saying. If he sounds even remotely foreign, then we must never overlook the opportunity to purge this member from our sight with the handy dandy ignore function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    Yeah, animism makes no sense. Naturalism (even reductionism) is the way to go.

    Animism is just projection.

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    I think it's more interesting to try and objectively describe a soul, and if naturalistic thinking is in exact opposition, seeing as a soul could still be a chemical process; which, may, or may not indicate a personality towards any sort of finality within thinking.

    Animism may still be a projection, but could that not be enough to actually place a soul within an object? Just some thoughts.

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    Animism is coming back as we join electronic tribes like Central in the global village.

    Naturalism was the result of 400 years of the printing press and literacy. And so animism was seen to be illiterate and tribal.

    And as we are moving into the electronic tribal world animism seems more natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Animism is coming back as we join electronic tribes like Central in the global village.

    Naturalism was the result of 400 years of the printing press and literacy. And so animism was seen to be illiterate and tribal.

    And as we are moving into the electronic tribal world animism seems more natural.
    You need to lay off the McLuhan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    You need to lay off the McLuhan.
    I am a pius young man and Marshall McLuhan is the patron saint of the internet.

    And if we wish to understand what we are doing here, all we need to do to turn to Marshall McLuhan.

    And apart from the fact that Saint McLuhan is a genius, he is also optimistic and positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evan View Post
    Yeah, animism makes no sense. Naturalism (even reductionism) is the way to go.

    Animism is just projection.
    rational reductionism can show that animism and naturalism are indistinguishable, fundamentally. are you interested in understanding why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattheworman View Post
    rational reductionism can show that animism and naturalism are indistinguishable, fundamentally. are you interested in understanding why?
    I'm interested in knowing how you would explain it -- I can think of a way they might be explained as compatible also, but it seems like a bit of a stretch.

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