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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    You are telling me who I am based on an invalid and unreliable personality test, that I have never seen, let alone done.

    Is that right?
    No.

    I am telling you based on much personal observation and reflection that you fit the archetype of a dominant introverted feeler, as spelled out in Jungian typological theory.

    And, to preempt you, yes, I know that you like to spread misinformation claiming that Carl Jung molested his female patients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    you like to spread misinformation claiming that Carl Jung molested his female patients.
    I think he called it sexual healing.

    Perhaps it is just one of the varieties of truth - some call it sexual abuse by the doctor and some call it sexual healing by the guru.

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    For something to be true, it must be in accord with reality.

    It must be true regardless of circumstances, feelings, opinions, sentiment, etc.

    It must be eternal and unchanging.

    Perception of truth may be relative, but truth itself is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurgeon View Post
    It must be eternal and unchanging.
    Then 'Jesus is the son of god' is not true because he was born only 2,000 years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Then 'Jesus is the son of god' is not true because he was born only 2,000 years ago?
    I don't understand.

    How does being born only 2000 years ago conflict with being the Son of God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurgeon View Post
    I don't understand.

    How does being born only 2000 years ago conflict with being the Son of God?
    Gods and godesses can be or do whatever they want. That is the fun part of being a god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurgeon View Post
    I don't understand.
    We NTJs don't like when you NTPs talk about truth in terms of "eternal and unchanging".

    It is a reflection of your Ti and Si, and it is anathema to our Te and Se.

    We see all kinds of changing and ephemeral truths in the flow of existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    We NTJs don't like when you NTPs talk about truth in terms of "eternal and unchanging".

    It is a reflection of your Ti and Si, and it is anathema to our Te and Se.

    We see all kinds of changing and ephemeral truths in the flow of existence.
    Yeah, I get that.

    But what I don't understand is how being born only 2000 years ago conflicts with being the Son of God. I don't see any inherent contradiction or conflict there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurgeon View Post
    Yeah, I get that.

    But what I don't understand is how being born only 2000 years ago conflicts with being the Son of God. I don't see any inherent contradiction or conflict there.
    I found it a bit odd myself, but I think he was pointing to the fact that because Jesus was temporal, he could therefore, by your conditions for truth, not be true (and thus not the Son of God).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurgeon View Post
    I don't understand.

    How does being born only 2000 years ago conflict with being the Son of God?
    I take it you think that 'Jesus is the son of god' is a true statement. But 3,000 years ago, there was no Jesus. Therefore, if truth is eternal and unchanging, 'Jesus is the son of god' is not a true statement.

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