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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    For 200,000 years we knew the truth - we knew we were the centre of the Universe. Look, we said, the very Sun goes round us every day, and look, we are the centre of the Gods' attentions, and finally the centre of the One God's attention.

    And just as every child goes through the narcissistic phase believing they are the centre of the universe, so we believed we were the centre of the Universe.

    But the values of evidence and reason of the Enlightenment led us to question our belief that we are the centre of the Universe.

    Evidence and reason applied to astronomy showed us we are not the centre of the Universe. We now know the centre is everywhere. In other words, where ever we are in the Universe, we have the illusion we are at the centre.

    And interestingly we still believe our size is at the centre of the Universe. But Quantum Mechanics and Relativity have shown us that size is simply parochial. We are still narcissistic about our size.

    But we now know that the very big or the very small are so far out of our perception of size we can't even imagine them, although we can delineate them with great accuracy.

    Narcissism is a necessary phase for small children to pass through, but in grownups, narcissism is a neurosis.
    This is so very true, but what of our existance as meaning-creating creatures? Isn't there something that humans can find meaningful about life and other humans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Welcome!

    The purpose of this thread is to survey the various conceptions of truth that are ingrained in your minds. In order to participate and win a rabbit, please go by the following steps:

    1. Look into yourself.
    2. Feel, think about, grasp at the idea of truth that you find in there.
    3. Ponder the best way to put it into words.
    4. Put it into words.
    5. Submit it.

    It is neither necessary nor requested that you think about how truth should be, could be, or is defined by others. It is all about you.

    I hope your answer will in itself answer the following question; if it does not, however, please answer: According to your conception of truth, what is required for statement 'x'* to be true?

    * 'x' could be anything, for instance, 'Yeshua of Nazareth died on the cross'.
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    why cant I see my post

    *throws a school*

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    oh there we go.

    Experience is my truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flame View Post
    Experience is my truth
    Experience requires interpretation. And in beings who lack omniscience, experience is limited.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Experience requires interpretation. And in beings who lack omniscience, experience is limited.
    Experience cannot be interpreted as truth. It just is. The second you interpret experience is the second you are setting limitations on the limitless.

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    I do things to get the things I want so that other people cant do their things to stop me fron doing my things. The best thing is the thing that makes me feel gooder the longest and bestest and benefits everyone else in the process. aka truth.

    /Communicating with INTPs 101

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    truth is what you know it to be..

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    There is this thing, which it's very nature defines it to be everything, and we're all in it. Our ability to perceive and understand it is rather limited, but in our desire to overcome those limitations, we repeatedly attempt to create mental maps of how that thing is (The nature of that desire would baffle the best alien minds, if only the sort of aliens who would be baffled by it cared enough to learn about it in the first place). From a human perspective, truth is when the mental maps of a thing and the actual nature of the thing align.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flame View Post
    Experience cannot be interpreted as truth. It just is. The second you interpret experience is the second you are setting limitations on the limitless.
    You give an object a name, like a "chair" and you are interpreting it. A chair is a concept. If you came from a planet that had no chairs, when you first saw a chair, you probably would not even know what it is for.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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    Quote Originally Posted by ~MS*ANGEL~ View Post
    Sometimes, the truth is something that can be difficult to handle - especially in cases where a person who has forgotten his/her past is blissfully unaware that he/she is living a lie. In those cases, it would be better to remain lost in sweet idealistic dreams, than to face a bitter truth that could shatter the person completely.
    This was a comment I made over three years ago, so here's how much I've changed since then:

    Facing a bitter truth is better than living in a world of sugar-coated lies. At least the truth gives me strength and newfound wisdom to move forward with.
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