I agree, but I think people and the religion they create are the source of the noise.
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Does Hell exist?
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No, contradictions within the characterizations of belief systems.
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My interpretation is as good as anybody else's. Get back to me when there is a standard christian belief.No, contradictions within the characterizations of belief systems.
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Did you take pictures?
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I did. Unfortunately, all of the pictures were destroyed in the end.
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Well a Nihilist will say that we'll never know and thus won't speak on the subject. Also when you get into the reason why you go to Heaven or Hell (which is morality) we get too subjective. Think of it like this.... It will sound tacky. Masochists enjoy pain that's inflicted upon them, if your consciousness follows you after death and you were "evil" and go to Hell where you are tortured is that really a punishment? Hell is no longer evil to them, or a place they wish to avoid.
Are we going to have to wait for Relativity Theory to agree fully with quantum mechanics to make any progress in science too?
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To Hell? I've been there, it's not nearly as bad as you'd think.
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No. But has there ever been progress in christian theology?
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*puts helmet on* I've always wanted to visit Hell... Let's do it! Will you be my Virgil???
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Religions can't really progress... I suppose they could civilize, but even then we can't determine progress we can just see change. I'd say it has changed.
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The answer was 'no'.
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Define what you constitute as progress.
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Having matters settled in a way that makes future consideration of them unnecessary or getting closer to the truth in a way that can be evidenced objectively.
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So what you don't like is that Christianity is open to interpretation and isn't set in stone? (could be reading this wrong)
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The way I see it, religions change with the needs of the people. Theology just tries to have it make some sort of internal sense. No progress.
My point was of course that there is much disagreement in many fields, and that differing perspectives aren't necessarily contradictions.
For example, let's take what seems like a fairly objective question: Where is the Sun right now? I don't think you want or need to answer that, because you probably understand where the discussion would quickly go.
