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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelchairdoug View Post
    It just seems strange to me that, if there's a direct correlation between your actions and beliefs and consequences in the afterlife, they would operate on some system more harsh than reaping what you sow, so to say.
    Well, I don't disagree with you, but the Christian premise is not yours. I don't believe in the Christian premise, so I'm playing a bit of a Devil's Advocate here (har har). Most Christians do not believe that your actions and beliefs (or works) are correlated with your consequences in the afterlife. They do believe that people who accept Jesus will on the whole be better people, and that doing good things shows your belief in God. So really, good deads does not equal heaven.

    There is at least on branch of Christianty (Calvinists) that basically says that you can never choose to be a good person and be saved on your own, you can't even choose to accept Jesus, you are so sinful. The only ones to be saved are the ones who were chosen by God specifically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    Do you believe in the presence of demons, demonic things, and/or the devil?

    Do you believe that hell (aka the lake of fire) exists?
    I go to a church that has an awesome ENTP pastor who did a very interesting sermon on hell one day, and for the first time it was something that made sense to me and I could get behind it.

    In a nutshell, hell is being separated from God. He cited a passage in the bible talking about the judgement being a process that refines us like the process used to refine gold. (basically heat is applied to gold to burn off impurities). So his take on this is that we will all have the bad parts about us burned off one time, and whatever good bits are left, that gets saved. Whatever bad parts we have are destroyed. So people who perhaps are damned eternally (hitler has some of the best odds on that) will not be tortured for eternity, instead they will just be destroyed and that's the end of it. A permenant and eternal separation from God.

    I am paraphrasing from memory here but that is the gist of what I remembered. What I like about it is that while I am Christian, I don't believe the rest if the world is going to hell if they aren't Christian.

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    Where is the poll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    Do you believe in the presence of demons, demonic things, and/or the devil?

    Do you believe that hell (aka the lake of fire) exists?
    I don't believe it matters much. I think it is a distraction from the real point of religion.

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    This discussion reminds me of one MADTV quip

    Hostage taker: I'll see you in Hell!
    Woody Allen: Oh I don't believe in Hell, how about Los Angelos?

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    I remember a teacher who said heaven and hell are what we create right here in this life in how we act and treat each other. I thought that was interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    Do you believe in the presence of demons, demonic things, and/or the devil?

    Do you believe that hell (aka the lake of fire) exists?
    I think that all of these likely exist, but that the question of their existence is esoteric and irrelevant. The important issue is whether God and heaven exists, and what our course of action should be if true or likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Where is the poll?
    Probably in Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    I don't believe it matters much. I think it is a distraction from the real point of religion.
    Quote Originally Posted by JAVO View Post
    I think that all of these likely exist, but that the question of their existence is esoteric and irrelevant. The important issue is whether God and heaven exists, and what our course of action should be if true or likely.
    I'm not suggesting that hell should be focused on but I'm quite curious as to why it's considered irrelevant or non-existent in some cases. What is it about hell that makes people not want to even acknowledge or discuss it's existence?

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