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Would You Die For A Cause?

wolfy

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That's 'cause people are concepts to me!

Ha, I think I separate causes as concepts and abstract, and then people as human and maybe seeing a cause as representing something for them ...or something like that. I have a bothersome human focus in my mind. It also works to protect me from taking part in bullshit causes.
 

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No, I separate the human aspect. I'll admit though... generally, I do consider people human.

Dont you get bored at some time to always seperate the human aspect ? I mean humans are prolly the worst that ever happened to this planet and they stink, I dont know how one could have pity for them
 

wolfy

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Dont you get bored at some time to always seperate the human aspect ? I mean humans are prolly the worst that ever happened to this planet and they stink, I dont know how one could have pity for them

I don't do it, it just is.
 

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I'd rather kill for a cause. :2ar15:
The whole dying thing just doesn't appeal to me. :thumbdown:
Just sayin'. :happy:

:solidarity:

-Alex

Bahaha; speaking of killing for a cause..
http://www.cracked.com/article_17019_5-real-life-soldiers-who-make-rambo-look-like-pussy.html

"Ultimately, we are all dead men. Sadly, we cannot choose how. But we can choose how we meet that end, in order that we are remembered as men."

Well from my POV - show me a hero and I'll show you somebody who is in a bad place they'd prefer not to be doing what they have to do. As to "a guarantee I would live on in eternity as a hero" I'll assume you mean in the literary sense and not in some Valhalla. With that assumption the question would is: would I trade my life for some sort of legend? Nope. Not a chance. Show me a dead hero and I'll show you somebody who is dead. I’m not saying it wouldn’t be better to be dead as a hero than a knave but what I am saying is that its better to be alive. Somebody offers me a chance to take part in a sucicide mission but I get to go down in the history books I’m saying “pass”. Let the fools and romantics take the up. Again, it’s not that I haven’t and wouldn’t risk my neck – I just want a sporting chance to live to a ripe old age.

Sometimes what needs to be done will leave no sporting chance to see a ripe old age. Weighed in the balance, is your life worth the objective you're working towards?

One of my favorite stories as a kid was about the viking at stamford bridge. History has lost his name, but we remember him for what he did; single handedly holding off the entire Saxon army to give his side a chance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stamford_Bridge#Battle

We all die; how, and for what purpose is usually not a choice we get to make. If you could choose to have it mean something, for it to be a good death, and one that could be remembered by history - wouldn't you?
 

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There are people I would take a bullet for. But I will probably die for no good reason, same reason I was born, basically.
 

Mole

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The Death Wish - Thanatos

If we haven't got something to die for, we haven't got something to live for.

The Islamists have something to die for, so they have something to live for.

And it is obvious reading these posts that the West has nothing to die for anymore, and so has nothing to live for, and indeed have even stopped having children.

If we have nothing to die for, we have, ironicly, a death wish.
 

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If we haven't got something to die for, we haven't got something to live for.

The Islamists have something to die for, so they have something to live for.

And it is obvious reading these posts that the West has nothing to die for anymore, and so has nothing to live for, and indeed have even stopped having children.

If we have nothing to die for, we have, ironicly, a death wish.

Think its time for you to tell whether you are one of the islamists or us or we'll present your death wish :)
 

Tiltyred

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I don't understand needing to justify my existence or needing a reason to live. I'm alive; I live.
 

KDude

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If we haven't got something to die for, we haven't got something to live for.

The Islamists have something to die for, so they have something to live for.

And it is obvious reading these posts that the West has nothing to die for anymore, and so has nothing to live for, and indeed have even stopped having children.

If we have nothing to die for, we have, ironicly, a death wish.

Cool. Now fetch me some cake.
 

entropie

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People do so many things for no reason so I dont see why it wouldnt be possible to die for a cause
 

alcea rosea

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I don't think I would be villing to die over a cause, at least currently. I don't believe in anything that much.
 

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There is no cause I have encountered or I could make up so far that would bring me even close to considering such an action. I'm leaving that as an 'unlikely.' I'm staying alive as long as I can possibly manage so that I have the potential to save/stir-up the world far more than once.
 

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My cause is to stay alive for as long as possible. So, no. But I have great respect the people that would. There is no death more honorable than that, as far as I'm concerned.
 

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^ Also if you blow yourself up in a bus full of people?
Or let yourself and your children be killed in order to be a martyr, like Saint Sophie? She actually went to Rome in order to get persecuted! She got her wish, she is a saint now... imagine that.

There are very few causes which merit a human death. I guess the only ones involve saving other lives.
 
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