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    It was 1970.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    In the age of terrorism I think its more likely that you'd wind up dying for someone else's two bit cause, unless the capitalist dirt bags get their way, then we'll all wind up dying because their sums dont add up. Still, it'll be our fault, their system is blameless or so they're oft prepared to spend a lot of time telling people.
    you're the first socialist I've met who seems to understand this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    you're the first socialist I've met who seems to understand this
    Sidenote, in the age of not-terroism, I think its more likely that you'd wind up dying for someone else's two bit cause.

    Think about every conflict and cause that has ever occurred on this planet.

    The haves will never fight or die when there are so many have-nots around

    And I totally am registered for the draft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    Well?
    Over my dead body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    you're the first socialist I've met who seems to understand this
    I'm not sure you've met a lot of socialists Elfboy, this is less to do with being a socialist and more to do with being someone who grew up in northern ireland before the peace process and with the continued prescence of paramilitaries and their causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I'm not sure you've met a lot of socialists Elfboy, this is less to do with being a socialist and more to do with being someone who grew up in northern ireland before the peace process and with the continued prescence of paramilitaries and their causes.
    interesting, you seem to be interested in the abuse of power. may I ask what in a socialist society would prevent governmental abuse of power when they are able to amass such large amounts of money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    interesting, you seem to be interested in the abuse of power. may I ask what in a socialist society would prevent governmental abuse of power when they are able to amass such large amounts of money?
    The government is made of people with a vested interest in their society

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    The government is made of people with a vested interest in their society
    only so long as the people are able to control the government and not the other way around. do you honestly think most politicians go into politics because they want to serve humanity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    only so long as the people are able to control the government and not the other way around. do you honestly think most politicians go into politics because they want to serve humanity?
    I believe that they believe they are serving humanity

    You're missing the point though

    The government is people

    Terrorist is people

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    Yeah - if I wanted to.

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