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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Yea I like that.

    Tho its open how heaven is defined, for some heaven is a well cut green turf in the backyard for some its a champagne party with 20 naked blondes
    This is an interesting point too, Borges wrote good material on how in literary terms in the past more time was spent trying to imagine hell than heaven in precise terms (the best hell I've heard of was a huge cavernous black and grey place which is layered with dust and dirt and has two thin lines of filthy water running in different directions through it and is totally deserted).

    I have heard two accounts of heaven which I liked, one is from Shawshank Redemption in which one of the death row prisoners states that they hope God will let them return to the time they were happiest and remain there for eternity, the other was from a Graham Masterton pulp horror in which in a dialogue between demons and angels it is revealed the virtuous dwell in what they have always envisaged heaven to be.

    For my part I love fresh cut lawns but I'm not a fan of champagne

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Karl Jaspers said that any God whose existence could be proven was no God.
    Hmmm.. I don't know about that one, but I'm pretty much just a hedge philosopher. Can you explain his position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie Jesus View Post
    Not really. Just because you can think of it, doesn't mean it must exist. Unless it's porn.
    I once read about a very elaborate and terrifying version of hell based upon this in a novel called beauty, it really made me think about life and the books I read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlip View Post
    Hmmm.. I don't know about that one, but I'm pretty much just a hedge philosopher. Can you explain his position?
    Once I understand it, I've ordered a book and its going to arrive in the next week or two hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie Jesus View Post
    Not really. Just because you can think of it, doesn't mean it must exist. Unless it's porn.
    If i can concieve an idea then it exists, even if it's solely in idea form.
    Porn? meh...boring.
    "We knew he was someone who had a tragic flaw, that's where his greatness came from"

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    Heaven is real indeed. But I'm not allowed to post links to her porn site.

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    Well, one argument against heaven's existence is that nobody has seen, heard, felt, smelt, or tasted it. By this logic, I could also say that Scooby-Doo is more likely to be real than heaven is.

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    easy. human beings can only appreciate happiness if misery is in the picture too, the good and the bad are meaningless without the other. eternal, undisturbed happiness therefore is not a real possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colourscientist View Post
    easy. human beings can only appreciate happiness if misery is in the picture too, the good and the bad are meaningless without the other. eternal, undisturbed happiness therefore is not a real possibility.
    What if you've had life to compare it to?

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