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    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    I would think he would actually like the attention and relish in it.
    I'm convinced he does. Even when it's negative attention he receives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    The bolded appears to be contrary to what Victor's expressing, in reference to makeup imitating arousal. Odd that, no?
    The bolded statement may or may not be contrary to what Victor is saying...I don't actually know. I guess it would depend on whether or not one can say that 'sexual attractiveness' plays a role in 'professional success'...which I do believe, in many cases (but not necessarily all - so in general), it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryKnights View Post
    The bolded statement may or may not be contrary to what Victor is saying...I don't actually know. I guess it would depend on whether or not one can say that 'sexual attractiveness' plays a role in 'professional success'...which I do believe, in many cases (but not necessarily all - so in general), it does.
    It can but not as you've expressed by stating that people take you more seriously. Being taken more seriously, and maybe this is again an assumption of mine, being taken more seriously means that you garner more respect for qualities other than physical attractiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryKnights View Post
    The bolded statement may or may not be contrary to what Victor is saying...I don't actually know. I guess it would depend on whether or not one can say that 'sexual attractiveness' plays a role in 'professional success'...which I do believe, in many cases (but not necessarily all - so in general), it does.
    I should add though...that I believe make-up is also meant to make you look 'young'. That when you are young and healthy and have better circulation...that your skin has a healthy glow...that your features are more pronounced...cheeks are naturally pink...and your lips are red.

    EDIT: not sure about purple eyelids though LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redcheerio View Post
    Ok, maybe you're right. Didn't mean for it to be unfair or unkind. I meant for it to be insightful, but maybe it was too harsh.
    It was not unfair or unkind. It was truthful. HE IS A TROLL. Yes, he just wants attention, because he is a troll. Why on earth else would you jump into a thread with high momentum and enthusiasm and everyone in happy agreement, and throw cold water on it? Why would you do it repeatedly and repeatedly complain that you are being yelled at when you do it? STOP DOING THE THING THAT GETS YOU YELLED AT AND THE YELLING WILL STOP. Victor, who is so fond of quoting the rules to other people about bullying and who threatens to report you if you insult him because that's against the rules and you could be banned ... I cannot believe anybody buys into it.

    Oh, he's metaphorical, y'know, that's cool, but the point is, start your own thread, or if you don't want to actually discuss, write a blog. Don't jump into other people's threads and piss on them. And then turn around and cry when they say they don't want to stop what they were enjoying talking about to entertain the subject you now insist out of the clear blue they turn their attention to. Again, who's the bully??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    It can but not as you've expressed by stating that people take you more seriously. Being taken more seriously, and maybe this is again an assumption of mine, being taken more seriously means that you garner more respect for qualities other than physical attractiveness.
    I think there have been a lot of scientific studies/research done on how men that are taller and have a full head of hair...and women that are...whatever women are supposed to look like...get characteristics attributed to them...like strong, smart, effective, pleasant...that may or may not be representative of how they truly are in reality.

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    And more statistics saying that women who wear makeup to work make higher salaries. I guess that's because employers like deceitful mantraps who appear to be sexually aroused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryKnights View Post
    I think there have been a lot of scientific studies/research done on how men that are taller and have a full head of hair...and women that are...whatever women are supposed to look like...get characteristics attributed...like strong, smart, effective, pleasant...that may or may not be representative of how they truly are in reality.
    Clarify something for me. If you disagree with makeup usage, why are you wearing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryKnights View Post
    I should add though...that I believe make-up is also meant to make you look 'young'. That when you are young and healthy and have better circulation...that your skin has a healthy glow...that your features are more pronounced...cheeks are naturally pink...and your lips are red.

    EDIT: not sure about purple eyelids though LOL.
    lol I wear make-up to cover that "glow" (oil, I still break out) and red cheeks (ugh)...of course people always think I'm younger than I am, including people who have seen me nearly every day without make-up...I still think I look better with make-up....the main difference between my face now and fifteen years ago is that I looked like a baby and had no character...even when I was 22 or 23 I looked like a teenager, and dude when I was sixteen or seventeen I HATED IT...the cool thing about having a baby face I guess is that it serves you well as you age...and this has applied to other women in my family not just me...the only thing that would be better would be to be Asian and have that thicker skin...that's the primary thing I envy.

    Purple eyelids apparently indicate sexual arousal.

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    As Vic expanded on his original post, he was taking a very evolutionary and biological point of view. On that level, it is true. But it is simplistic, and we are not near that simple. When a woman puts on makeup, a man knows she has makeup, and the woman knows that the man knows. At this point, the act of putting on makeup no longer is a trick, it's a form of expression. I becomes part of how people communicate with each other depending on your culture, part of the language.

    All of this is just evident. A woman who wears make-up in mainstream western culture looks more put together and respectable, a signal that she cares about herself. In some subcultures, or just cultures, it might mean something entirely different. It doesn't mean anything about her biological ability and willingness to reproduce. We need to assess so much anymore about each other than when we were living without clothes out in Africa, our lives are much more complex now.

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