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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    who is Walter Benjamin?
    A literary critic. He wrote a famous essay about the work of art in the age of mechanical reproduction and how it created what we know as "culture industry". Look 'im up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    A literary critic. He wrote a famous essay about the work of art in the age of mechanical reproduction and how it created what we know as "culture industry". Look 'im up.
    did he host a documentary called "Why Beauty Matters"? if so, I know who he is and I agree with him (minus all the references to Plato. Aristotle ftw )
    Edit: if not, I'm talking about the wrong guy
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    Ace of Base is as bad as The Partridge Family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Ace of Base is as bad as The Partridge Family.
    Ace of Base with the new singers is not so great; Ace of Base with the old singers is AMAZING.
    you trippin' son
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    no it isn't. that's like saying it's philosophically impossible to justify wanting to have a bigger house, nicer clothes, better food or a more comfortable bed. the answer is simple, it's more pleasurable
    Those are bad analogies. Think harder.

    Quote Originally Posted by LEGERdeMAIN View Post
    I don't think it's impossible to rank musicians in order of least to most aesthetically pleasing, but my list will be different from most others, most probably.
    Exactly, which is why the important word is philosophically. There is no way to "objectively" justify taste. Not even reference to musical structure/complexity is sufficient, because then you'd have to explain why that structure is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    Ace of Base with the new singers is not so great; Ace of Base with the old singers is AMAZING.
    you trippin' son
    No, you trippin.

    Those of us who remember when Ace of Base was new...and who were even in the target age group at the time...realize how much it's like a terrible rip-off of ABBA. I listen to a lot of music, too. A lot of music. My mind is full of a library of 20th century music of all different decades and genres.

    But Ace of Bass just fucking sucks, man.

    Of course, art being subjective, you might think they're superior to some groups I like.

    Which means, we win, you lose, your argument was meaningless, have a nice day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    Ace of Base with the new singers is not so great; Ace of Base with the old singers is AMAZING.
    you trippin' son
    Sorry Elfboy, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Those are bad analogies. Think harder.
    Exactly, which is why the important word is philosophically. There is no way to "objectively" justify taste. Not even reference to musical structure/complexity is sufficient, because then you'd have to explain why that structure is better.
    actually, if you are talking about vocal qualities or timbre in various instruments, science can prove that certain sound combinations produce a more soothing sound response in humans as opposed to others that are more grating on the ears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGERdeMAIN View Post
    I don't think it's impossible to rank musicians in order of least to most aesthetically pleasing, but my list will be different from most others, most probably.
    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    A literary critic. He wrote a famous essay about the work of art in the age of mechanical reproduction and how it created what we know as "culture industry". Look 'im up.
    Don't forget this clown: Adorno is suffering from incontinence of the brain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    actually, if you are talking about vocal qualities or timbre in various instruments, science can prove that certain sound combinations produce a more soothing sound response in humans as opposed to others that are more grating on the ears.
    That doesn't say anything about why it's better. Surely some sounds that would count as displeasing or dissonant are used in what many consider to be "good" music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    Ace of Base with the old singers is AMAZING.
    Let's not forget Hanson and the Osmond Brothers.

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