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    My take on it is it is in the design intent, if something is designed to be popular it can make you feel it is inferior quality (aka crap). It gets more difficult, something can be both designed to be popular and be an honest creative expression. At the end of the day it doesn't matter too much... from a purely personal perspective, in my experience it is better to simply like what you like and just roll with whatever. It's when you start questioning and analysing your likes and dislikes that your head gets screwed up.

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    This thread is why Kurt Cobain killed himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    This thread is why Kurt Cobain killed himself.
    It's true. And that just seems so sad after reading the whole thread. Sad like pathetic, not sad like unhappy.
    Everybody have fun tonight. Everybody Wang Chung tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    I observed the same for liberals, you know. Except for the gender thing, and the main raison I think, is that liberalism appeals to emotion and compassion before reason and intelectual rigor, while with libertarianism, it's the contrary.
    Libertarianism doesn't appeal to intellectual rigor, it appeals to overly fanciful self-absorption. "Whheeee! Yes! I am one of the superior ones! I will never get sick, grow old, or have bad luck! Not me! It won't affect me!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent Fresh View Post
    That's such an over-generalized BS ever.

    At some point I think you have to accept the fact that hardworking people can get screwed and need government help. It's not a sign of laziness, it's a failure of our political system.
    Oh I know, and if you don't start at the same starting point as many other people it becomes that much more of a challenge. I like how some people presume pretty much everybody is middle class, when the truth is most people are working class, and some people come from the freaking ghetto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    How mainstream. I am elegance.
    I am karma.

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    I don't consider mainstream to be inherently bad, it's just that mainstream entertainment tends to be overemphasized until it's tired. It gets so old that it buries itself. That's why the pop stations play the same songs 5 times a day for X period of time and suddenly they're immediately traded off for others forever.

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    And no, I don't consider mainstream to always be dumbed down. There's depth in meaning to be found; it's your choice as to whether you want to redeem it or to absorb it in a "dumbed down" way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    high class
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    working class
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    upper class
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    upper middle class

    social class.

    upper middle class

    upper middle class
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    working class

    middle-middle class

    upper middle class
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    middle class

    working class
    I think Marm is trying to make a point here. And that point is... uh... dammit, I lost it! Right on the tip of my tongue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    I think Marm is trying to make a point here. And that point is... uh... dammit, I lost it! Right on the tip of my tongue...
    Elfboy brought class into it when he wouldn't invite the plebes to the opera.

    I can't be held responsible for what transpired following that exchange.

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