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    Justice is when everyone plays by the same rules and gets different results.

    Fairness is when everyone plays by different rules and gets the same results.

    Justice is a process. Fairness is an outcome.

    The words are ambiguous. Sometimes "fairness" means justice, and other times it means equality. A "fair fight" is a fight where fighters play by the same rules, and so that would be like a "just fight." People use these terms to mean different things in different contexts. In any case, whatever words used, the important distinction is between processes and outcomes.
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    I wonder what function that's intended to uncover? I've been thinking about it and I have no idea which one I think is more important. I think both are extremely important, and when they conflict it depends on the situation which one is best....
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    Quote Originally Posted by reason View Post
    Justice is when everyone plays by the same rules and gets different results.

    Fairness is when everyone plays by different rules and gets the same results.

    Justice is a process. Fairness is an outcome.

    The words are ambiguous. Sometimes "fairness" means justice, and other times it means equality. A "fair fight" is a fight where fighters play by the same rules, and so that would be like a "just fight." People use these terms to mean different things in different contexts. In any case, whatever words used, the important distinction is between processes and outcomes.
    Was just about to say exactly this.

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    Assuming a democratic system:

    Justice and fairness are both constructs of the same society. Fairness is fluid. Justice is more rigid.

    When they collide, the construct of Justice can be altered by a vote of majority. Fairness on a democratic scale will always prevail over justice because of this.

    If properly maintained, Justice is therefor an extension of fairness.
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