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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Cause and effect are relative to one's vantage.
    The timeline does not assign titles.
    The titles assign the timeline
    which is merely an illusion
    of motion.

    No movement,
    yet nothing is static.

    Nothing happened,
    nothing will happen,
    it just happens itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfinchilde View Post
    Nightning: if you're talking in the singular, then, cause does not = effect.

    But in the pluralistic sense: effect may = cause. Not the same, but another new cause. envision it in the sense of two rulers: one beneath the other. Take odd numbers as cause, even numbers as effect.

    They start out equally.

    But if you shift the second rule, such that its 1 is equivalent to the other's 2, then, that is how the effect of one action becomes the cause of a new action.

    Edahn: waves are always in the mind; more often than not, they generate deed. Which is why karma is given not on thought, but on deeds of one's own volition.

    ie, if you do not act on a cause, then there are no waves. No repercussion; according to the classical rules of karma.

    Concretise it:

    Hitler thinks of Aryan supremacy. But he only holds it as ideas in his head, and does not act upon it. Is there cause? Yes. But are there effects? No.

    Where does effect come in? When he acted upon it and eliminated the Jews.

    That effect was the Holocaust. Greek: holos = completely. kaustos = burnt.

    That effect generated other causes.
    Oscar Schindler, who felt the need to save as many Jews as he could, even though he was German.
    Poland, left with the legacy of Auschwitz, Beltzec, Chelmno, Majdanek, amongst others: kept as memorials for the world, so the world would not forget: even though the people themselves struggle with the daily reminder of such a legacy.
    Anne Frank. A diary. A young girl. The saving of an old chestnut tree. Would a tree cause such worldwide media attention, otherwise?
    The Final Solution to the Jewish Problem. In its actual German: Die Endlosung der Judenfrage. The concept of genocide is articulated for the first time in the world. Spawning: genocides in Rwanda. Bosnia. Cambodia.

    Causes and effects. Causes lead to effects, which become other causes.

    The link is in action. If there is no deed, the cause is ended. The waves of the mind and in the world then become calm.

    but ah. A question then: is the human propensity not for action? How else the concepts of revenge, justice, vendetta?

    Humans. Homo sapiens. Sapiens meaning sentience. Do we truly think, or do we not merely act emotively? And thereby, effects become new causes, and the cycle goes on.
    Is the thread teasing you,
    Or are you teasing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    Is the thread teasing you,
    Or are you teasing it?

    If i choose not to respond, is there no tease?

    Cause and consequence are linked through action. Always.
    The waves, as you said, are in the mind.


    I'm serious here, actually. But was it too loopy to follow?


    Aside, if the thread is capable of play, Ne should not mind.

    btw: see wildcat's blog. he's ordered the functions in order of shyness and feeling.
    You gave me hyacinths first a year ago;
    They called me the hyacinth girl.
    Yet when we came back, late, from the Hyacinth garden,
    Your arms full, and your hair wet, I could not
    Speak, and my eyes failed, I was neither
    Living nor dead, and I knew nothing,
    Looking into the heart of light, the silence.

    --T.S Eliot, The Wasteland

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    A wildcat is a wildcat.

    Can anyone but a wildcat, have a wildcat moment?

    Who defines a moment.
    What defines a wildcat?

    The illusion of being another, and a borrowed time?
    Do we not all borrow time and lives?

    Cause and effect, depends on where the you're standing in the line.


    "To do is to be" - Rene Descartes

    "To be is to do" - Immanuel Kant

    "do be do be do" - Frank Sinatra

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    My wildcant moment is such when I go to the forest and run like a wildcat!

    My Ti is really weak and Wildcat is always Wilcat (as aelan said), very unique.

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    Force meat.
    Still using a needle to break apart a grain of sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfinchilde View Post
    Nightning: if you're talking in the singular, then, cause does not = effect.

    But in the pluralistic sense: effect may = cause. Not the same, but another new cause. envision it in the sense of two rulers: one beneath the other. Take odd numbers as cause, even numbers as effect.
    Yes. Cause => Effect = other causes => other effects. A cascade of cause and effect.

    Fractals!

    Or number tree?


    1
    1 1
    1 2 1
    1 3 3 1
    ...
    To stand at one point and peer into the mist of possibilities. How many paths do one see? An infinite number of branching points. That's human perception for you. In reality, there's no beginning nor ending... As much in front of you as behind you. Afterall, time is relative.

    Quote Originally Posted by FallsPioneer View Post
    Force meat.
    To be human is to dish it and eat it. Blame it on the human mind.

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