Would you make that joke to a woman? Doubt it, you hypocrite sexist.
I doubt a woman would go trolling by posting what you did, but if you were a woman and you did that I would also refer you to the competent counselor that I know.
Feel better snookums?
The girl wouldn't owe the guy sex, because selling or bartering for sex is illegal. However, if a girl allows a guy to "spend so much money" on her without the intent of putting out sometime in the future, she's being a bit of a twat.
Ah, thanks for pearls of dating wisdom. I'm sure the PUA forums have ways around that.
Ah, but if it was a chick it would all be okidoki, yeah?
If it were a girl it would change the context tremendously.
Which was exactly the case in Simi's anecdote.
That would be a contradiction, but that's not what the question was about. The question was if someone began to enjoy it during the act, if, by way of enjoyment (And therefore possibly wanting it) it stops being rape. So that would not be the same as liking rape, which is illogical. Perhaps we can use the word want instead of the word like. If someone was forced into a sexual act they did not consent to, resisted at first, but then changed their mind and decided they wanted it and stopped resisting, would it be rape?
For the law to be effective, I think it should be considered rape in that scenario, but that doesn't mean it is in a more psychological or ethical way. One also wonders if the "rape" would be reported or admitted if the victim decided they didn't mind after all, so the legality might become moot.
It's a very interesting question.
I haven't read the OP, I generally avoid threads like this, and I do not think it as interesting question at all because the concept of consent and forcing yourself against someone is very clear cut .
It is question however that will get bandied about even legally in a rape fostering culture. Seriously even the premise (it started out rape, but then she liked it, so I'm not guilty) is a classic rapist's defense.
I understand wanting to discuss the 'question' in a 'purely philosophical way' but it still plays into bs created by a rape culture. Also, these questions have been around a while. The law itself is not really equipped to handle social complexities and the law is pretty biased against women when it comes to prosecuting or even identifying rape.
The very old school
'Sisterhood Is Powerful' Or even
I Never Call It Rape which is also considered kinda old school already covered that quoted scenario in depth but decades later the law and the biases of (mostly male) judges that skews their judgements hasn't really changed much IMHO.
That these same questions ("Is it rape?") are seriously pondered socially and legally decades later when I think it's pretty clear cut what constitutes 'rape' is endemic to a rape culture.
