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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    would these hypothetical situations be considered rape?

    1) you hypnotize someone into having sex with you
    During hypnosis you are fully aware of your choices and you have your will to choose what you wish.
    2) you get someone drunk so that you can manipulate them to have sex with you
    Depends on the person. If you got your wife drunk and manipulated her to have sex with you would she consider it rape in the morning?
    3) you have sex with someone controversially younger than you, but they consent
    Trophy wives? No it's not rape.
    4) you manipulate someone into having sex with you when you know they'll regret it later.
    If they consent it is not rape. Future is impossible to know so there is always the possibility they will not regret it. We cannot define rape upon lower possibilites of an event.
    5) you threaten to withdraw support for an individual if they don't have sex with you (not support that they need, like a job, money for living expenses or healthcare, but some other type of support that they can survive without)
    No it's not rape. The benefit is all on the person therefore the person has the right not to give it at anytime anyway.
    6) you threaten to withdraw support that the individual does need (such as those listed above)
    Again, it's all on the person so he has the right to take it away when he wishes. It's not rape. If he took it away without the sex what would it be considered as? Just cruel really. No crime.
    7) you make your spouse have sex with you after they have been witholding it from you
    Depends on what you mean by 'make'.
    8) someone has consented to have sex with you. you're in the middle of things and they say "stop!" and you don't
    Ah well, ever see in movies where a phone call happens during the act and the woman wishes not to stop but the man wishes to, for such a phone call and so the woman forces him not to and they go on for a bit more before the man forces against her in the end? Is that rape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    would these hypothetical situations be considered rape?

    1) you hypnotize someone into having sex with you
    2) you get someone drunk so that you can manipulate them to have sex with you
    3) you have sex with someone controversially younger than you, but they consent
    4) you manipulate someone into having sex with you when you know they'll regret it later.
    5) you threaten to withdraw support for an individual if they don't have sex with you (not support that they need, like a job, money for living expenses or healthcare, but some other type of support that they can survive without)
    6) you threaten to withdraw support that the individual does need (such as those listed above)
    7) you make your spouse have sex with you after they have been witholding it from you
    8) someone has consented to have sex with you. you're in the middle of things and they say "stop!" and you don't

    1. YES
    2. YES
    3. No
    4. No
    5.Yes
    6. Yes
    7. No
    8. No but technically yes.
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    Obviously: 1, 6, 7, 8.

    2: Unless you force them to get drunk, they are responsible for their own decisions.

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    1) you hypnotize someone into having sex with you
    2) you get someone drunk so that you can manipulate them to have sex with you
    3) you have sex with someone controversially younger than you, but they consent
    4) you manipulate someone into having sex with you when you know they'll regret it later.
    5) you threaten to withdraw support for an individual if they don't have sex with you (not support that they need, like a job, money for living expenses or healthcare, but some other type of support that they can survive without)
    6) you threaten to withdraw support that the individual does need (such as those listed above)
    7) you make your spouse have sex with you after they have been witholding it from you
    8) someone has consented to have sex with you. you're in the middle of things and they say "stop!" and you don't

    - sort of, because they technically haven't given consent
    - yes/same as above really
    - no but if they're under 16 it can be illegal
    - depends is person allowed them to or not. I think this is more like manipulation than rape though.
    - this depends on the situation. It seems more like bribery and threat. It is impossible to know because this is only the situation it describes.
    - more like a threat but it could go under rape and sexual harassment
    - ?
    - yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkdevil View Post
    1. YES
    2. YES
    3. No
    4. No
    5.Yes
    6. Yes
    7. No
    8. No but technically yes.
    Agreed, but #4 is disgusting and selfish.
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    1) you hypnotize someone into having sex with you
    Is hypnotization a thing? I don't know enough about it to give an educated answer.

    2) you get someone drunk so that you can manipulate them to have sex with you
    Yeah, that's pretty shitty.

    3) you have sex with someone controversially younger than you, but they consent
    Unless they're a minor, no.

    4) you manipulate someone into having sex with you when you know they'll regret it later.
    If they consent, then no; but it's still a pretty shitty thing to do.

    5) you threaten to withdraw support for an individual if they don't have sex with you (not support that they need, like a job, money for living expenses or healthcare, but some other type of support that they can survive without)
    No but yes; that's just wrong.

    6) you threaten to withdraw support that the individual does need (such as those listed above)
    Yes.

    7) you make your spouse have sex with you after they have been witholding it from you
    Yes, and I don't see why some people don't agree. Just because you're married doesn't mean you're entitled.

    8) someone has consented to have sex with you. you're in the middle of things and they say "stop!" and you don't
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    Don't know if this item from Thecriminallawyer has been posted before (didn't read the thread).

    Was it rape?[flowchart]

    By request, I’ve made a flowchart to help determine whether an encounter was legally “rape” or not. It’s really tough, because every state’s law is different. So this is just a general summary of how the laws work in general, and should not be taken as a statement of the law in your state!!

    If you think you may be a victim in real life, contact local law enforcement.

    If you are being accused in real life, speak to a lawyer who practices in your state.

    For a more thorough discussion, see the section on rape over at lawcomic.net.

    [Link to flowchart:] Was it rape? [flowchart] - The Illustrated Guide to Law's Tumblr

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