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    I'm very glad for those Dopamine receptors... Without them no one would continue to be altruistic.

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    It is the act that makes the hero, not the personal characteristics. Different acts could be associated with different characteristics.
    I don' t think there is a predictive model, but if I had to choose, I'd say:

    Has/had a comfortable life materially.
    Has a deep bond with the person/people they are doing the 'heroic' act for.
    Average level of intelligence.
    Prone to restlessness, aggressive and or risk taking behaviour.
    Has a tendency either to be impulsive, or to irrationally fixate on a particular course of action with single mindedness.
    Egotistical nature (believes that their actions will succeed to either make a difference, or increase their social standing).
    Self-righteousness.

    But there are plenty of people with those characteristics who we don't consider heroes, because we discriminate differently on what we believe to be a heroic act.

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    @ ReflecT, the relaxation response to fight or flight.

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    I'm going to agree that altruism is not heroic. whether you value altruism or have disdain for it (I'll save my qualms for an objectivist debate), altruism is a quite common and ordinary occurence.
    it's politically incorrect to say (surprise lol) but I think that hardly anyone is heroic. to me, heroism demands
    - willingness to go against everything you've been taught and everyone you know
    - a sense of integrity, class and nobility
    - a sense of passion and conviction
    - a willingness to stand up to anything (at least internally. it is not required that you openly flip off a dictator and get yourself killed to be considered heroic)
    - lack of passivity
    - doing something that is out of the ordinary, unconventional and makes an impact. there is no such thing as an ordinary hero
    to me, most people are too conventional, passive, compliant, and dry to be heroic. I think true heroism is a very rare trait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    - a sense of integrity, class and nobility
    Are you saying poor or non-elite people can't be heroic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    - doing something that is out of the ordinary, unconventional and makes an impact. there is no such thing as an ordinary hero
    What about police officers, firefighters, soldiers, or Red Cross members? They seem like "ordinary heroes" to me...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    to me, most people are too conventional, passive, compliant, and dry to be heroic. I think true heroism is a very rare trait
    Do you know someone IRL that has those characteristics? I'm curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    Are you saying poor or non-elite people can't be heroic?
    no, poor people can still have class and noble character and be heroic.


    What about police officers, firefighters, soldiers, or Red Cross members? They seem like "ordinary heroes" to me...
    they don't seem like heroes to me. they seem like good helpers, caregivers and servers. they do a lot of good for society, but they are not heroes.


    Do you know someone IRL that has those characteristics? I'm curious...
    only a few. like I said, I don't believe it's common to have a heroic personality
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    Is this the Cliff Notes version of my hero thread?

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...ad.php?t=48867

    Love to have thoughts in there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    Resilience, bravery, compassion, willingness to face one's fears, responsibility, a bit of humility and a spoonful of altruism.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    no, poor people can still have class and noble character and be heroic.

    they don't seem like heroes to me. they seem like good helpers, caregivers and servers. they do a lot of good for society, but they are not heroes.

    only a few. like I said, I don't believe it's common to have a heroic personality
    I take back my statement about fire fighters. fire fighters are heroic because they inspire people to a higher ideal. while they themselves often speak of "just doing there job" or "just being an average guy" (although my evidence of this is strictly anecdotal) this particular aspect of them is anything but ordinary. ordinary people can be heroic when they do extraordinary things and inspire people to higher ideal. that being said, the most heroic individuals are extraordinary by default and are heroic simply due to their magnetic and inspiring presence.
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