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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    What are you the thread police? I still think apathy is the opposite of love (and hate). If you disagree with me that's fine.
    Giggly, I'm sorry if I gave you that impression.

    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I still think apathy is the opposite of love (and hate). If you disagree with me that's fine.
    I didn't take issue with that.

    I took issue with the bolded constraint and how nobody else stepped in to help you see other possibilities.-->

    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    Note: The opposite of love is apathy, not hate.

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    I tried to see the possibility you pointed out but I can't and I didn't want to continue the discussion because you didn't seem to like that. anyways, like you asked, I looked up the word "love" as a noun and a verb elsewhere online and it seems to be an issue of semantics to me but the meanings are essentially the same -- that love is a feeling. Hate is also more recognizable and "in your face" than apathy. Apathy is more silent and covert.

    I'm not good at explaining myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    What are you the thread police? I still think apathy is the opposite of love (and hate). If you disagree with me that's fine.
    I agree with NerdGirl on this one. Apathy in this context would be the absence of any sort of clearly defined emotion, whereas hate is simply on the opposite end of the spectrum in relation to hate. If anything, apathy is the point of neutrality between the two.

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    I don't see how apathy could be in the middle of the two. I see love and hate as two separate but equal spectrums with apathy at the opposite end of both spectrums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I don't see how apathy could be in the middle of the two.
    Because it's the lack of emotion, thus it's neither hate nor love.

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    Oh the ways:

    Love----------------------------Apathy--------------------------Hate

    or

    |Love
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    |Hate
    |__________________________________________
    Apathy----------------------------------Interested

    or

    Apathy--------------------------------Love
    Apathy--------------------------------Hate

    Or really many ways can be used to describe it.

    It's great to have definitions for yourself of these concepts and be able to explain them to others so you can get to an agreed definition to work with in debates, but to say another is wrong is in itself an attempt to objectify something subjectively defined.

    For example if love and hate are polar opposites in energy and feeling. How can someone hate and love the same person at the same time? That person would have to have these energies together (or you would have to argue that it's not possible). Which is fine and doable, but would complicate the theory.

    According to the third idea, love and hate are not on a shared feeling spectrum and therefore it's easier to explain how to hate and love at the same time as they are different spectrums. But is this the correct choice? No and yes. To those who agree with this interpretation yes, to others no.

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    Hate is an illusion, love is real. Human love and human hate cancel like ying and yang. Unconditional love is eternal.

    Apathy like indifference is a fence sitter in the globalisation of words whose concepts are best represented symbolically. Much like peace and tranquility. Harmony and balance. Equilibration along the emotional scale, the curve of movements changes in accordance with the intention of the spirit. And that withstanding is more powerful than words. For words have a watering down effect that create a precinct of control, and in that control blindness ensues to the portents of dichotomies, divergent multitudes of words in use, much like the diversity of fuck. I can say I fucking hate you, die in a fire. Or I can say I fucking love you in all the places that count! But what is more powerful a lexicon here. love, hate, what is love hate. what is hate love. what isn't love and hate. Its a double sided experience, that likes to justify yet nullify conditions, when conditions like power are removed from the equation what is left an unconditional love. There is power here but it is not the power of love and hate, it is unconditional eternal unlimited. Like a placenta of nutritional love connected to higher consciousness, so too the placenta of nutritional love travels without constraints as the fibers and cells of being sing in gratitude, love and joy.

    I hope I cleared things up.

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    Technically I'd say Giggly's right on this one. Apathy is lack of any emotion (nothing in this instance) and that is the opposite of love and hate, which are something.

    It's presences vs absence. Of course apathy is not just the opposite of love it's the opposite of emotion itself.

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    Love and truth go hand-in-hand. To hate, you misunderstand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecTcelfeR View Post
    Technically I'd say Giggly's right on this one. Apathy is lack of any emotion (nothing in this instance) and that is the opposite of love and hate, which are something.

    It's presences vs absence. Of course apathy is not just the opposite of love it's the opposite of emotion itself.
    Yes, very true.

    Perhaps the model needs to be 3-d instead of linear.

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