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    This is pretty disturbing....2011 Gathering Of The Juggalos Infomercial.

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    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Oh! Serial killers, too - I was pretty damn disturbed by Deaver's The Bone Collector.

    And, if movies count, Black Swan. Dear fecking God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copperfish17 View Post
    Stop blaming everything on Communism. Looks like you misunderstood me, but I'm no fan of Communism - I'm completely neutral, in fact. It's not Communism itself that's hurting Chinese people, it's the people with power - Communism is a CONCEPT, a THEORY that actually has little to do with the idea of oppressing people. The definition of Communism originally centers on property rights, not oppression. I really wish Americans would look deeper into Communism before getting all rowdy about it.
    Ideas have consequences, and the (unsurprising) consequences of attempting to implement communism have been pretty consistent. One would think a Korean would have better understanding than most on this point, but I guess not.

    As for no one being oppressed in China....we must have drastically different notions as to what constitutes 'oppression'; to name the most obvious victims, there are Christians, Tibetan Buddhists, Falun Gong practioners, democracy supporters, people who would actually kind of like to write or say what they want without fear of police-state persecution, anybody who wants to have more than one or two kids....

    I guess people who don't consider what the aforementioned groups (as well as others) go through to be 'oppression' disturb me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    Ideas have consequences, and the (unsurprising) consequences of attempting to implement communism have been pretty consistent. One would think a Korean would have better understanding than most on this point, but I guess not.
    Tell me, what constitutes of implementing Communism? The only thing that Communism implies (according to its purest definition anyway) is that all property belongs to the government. But alas, we do have private property rights here, as the Chinese economy is Capitalist.

    Before implementing Capitalism in China, Deng Xiaoping (Communist, mind you) said, "No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat." As long as Capitalism helps China flourish, China will readily accept Capitalism.

    As for no one being oppressed in China....we must have drastically different notions as to what constitutes 'oppression'; to name the most obvious victims, there are Christians, Tibetan Buddhists, Falun Gong practioners, democracy supporters, people who would actually kind of like to write or say what they want without fear of police-state persecution, anybody who wants to have more than one or two kids....

    I guess people who don't consider what the aforementioned groups (as well as others) go through to be 'oppression' disturb me.
    Christians? There are thousands of churches in China. Among hundreds of Christians I ever got to know in China, none were disadvantaged in any way. Same deal with democracy supporters (unless they're openly, directly protesting against the government in masses - even then, most people will not be punished beyond paying a fine).

    Only (groups of) people who are openly and directly opposed to the government and have the power to spread words are persecuted. No matter what you truly believe, as long as you aren't making a scene in the streets with lots of "comrades" (heh), you're safe. No one will touch you.

    Anyhow, what I meant to say was no one's being oppressed due to Communism itself. Besides, heaps of Chinese people go around pretty much everything you put down there just by paying a sum of money. It's only the "bad stuff" that gets aired anyway... rules are pretty inconsistent and bendable in China, that I will admit.
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    people on crystal meth or crack

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    The only reason I really dislike Communism is that it promotes a certain level of power in the government that is easily abused. Otherwise, the concept itself is a wonderful one: everyone gains from the government holding all of the property and theoretically distributing it equally, meaning that no one is in a state of poverty and everyone has what they need.

    And as for what disturbs me is apathy. A totality of unfeeling is something I have had nightmares about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Vulture View Post
    The only reason I really dislike Communism is that it promotes a certain level of power in the government that is easily abused. Otherwise, the concept itself is a wonderful one: everyone gains from the government holding all of the property and theoretically distributing it equally, meaning that no one is in a state of poverty and everyone has what they need.
    Communism doesn't involve a government. You're thinking of Socialism.

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    People not knowing that communism is a dictatorship disturbs me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Jelly View Post
    People not knowing that communism is a dictatorship disturbs me.
    Communism doesn't involve dictators.

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