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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    why isn't art beautiful anymore? why are modern artists so indulging of the grotesque, the ordinary and the base? why is art no longer used to inspire to a higher ideal, beauty, or motivation? has art become an expression of shame or hopelessness?
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    Arguably there's more quality deep introspective art in the world being produced right now than ever. I think it's true.

    It's only that unless you actually try and seek it, most of the art you see will be part of a marketing campaign somewhere, designed for the lowest common denominator. It's great for 14 year olds and dumb 40 years olds, and to make money, but just because paintings, abstract art, sculpting, romanticism, expressionist, post modern etc... hold an extremely small market compared to just a couple artists on the Top 40 doesn't mean it's not out there.

    Back in the day when there wasn't electricity and mass communication, the popular art had to deep because there wasn't as much to do in your leisure time, or as much of it. Today's Michelangelo no one would notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Arguably there's more quality deep introspective art in the world being produced right now than ever. I think it's true.

    It's only that unless you actually try and seek it, most of the art you see will be part of a marketing campaign somewhere, designed for the lowest common denominator. It's great for 14 year olds and dumb 40 years olds, and to make money, but just because paintings, abstract art, sculpting, romanticism, expressionist, post modern etc... hold an extremely small market compared to just a couple artists on the Top 40 doesn't mean it's not out there.

    Back in the day when there wasn't electricity and mass communication, the popular art had to deep because there wasn't as much to do in your leisure time, or as much of it. Today's Michelangelo no one would notice.
    If people are desperate for those type of art, heading to a local museum of sorts or a gallery showcasing an artist works is an ideal setting. While it isn't as grand as the Sistine Chapel, it still warrants a lot of awe considering how some things like blowing glass sculptures can take a lifetime to fully master. I was required to see Dale Chihuly's work when his gallery was at S.F.. And really, to say something like this sounds easy or not as inspiring as the old ages is to truly not know how long some of these things can take.

    If art has served its purpose, it has served its purpose. Whether to the few or to the crowd. If art was directed towards children, it has served its purpose. If it was directed towards the crowd, it has served its purpose. If it was directed towards the "elites" it has served its purpose. If it was made to inspire, it has served its purpose. Take that cross up there for example, it looks like a "t" what is so special about it? It has meaning. Otherwise, it looks like the letter "t".

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    Smile Do you find me plausible - am I a work of art?

    All art is a lie.

    For instance, the art of drawing or photography collapses three dimensions into two. Of course this is a very clever lie, but a lie nonetheless.

    And the only thing that matters with a lie is whether it is plausible or implausible.

    I always ask a pretty girl, "Would I lie to you?". And then I reply to my own question by saying, "Only if I could get away with it". In other words, is my lie to a pretty girl, plausible or implausible? And of course it is all in the eye of the beholder - does she believe my lie - is my lie plausible. And if it is plausible, then my lie is art.

    And in the same way all religion is a lie - a lie that is plausible to some and implausible to others. Some us find Ganesh, the elephant headed God, implausible; and others find the Trinity implausible. But a billion Hindus find the Hindu Gods plausible, and about a billion Christians find the Trinity plausible.

    But always remember, and never forget, that propaganda is neither true nor false, but only plausible or implausible.

    So let me ask you, face to face, eyeball to eyeball, do you find me plausible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    All art is a lie.

    For instance, the art of drawing or photography collapses three dimensions into two. Of course this is a very clever lie, but a lie nonetheless.

    And the only thing that matters with a lie is whether it is plausible or implausible.

    I always ask a pretty girl, "Would I lie to you?". And then I reply to my own question by saying, "Only if I could get away with it". In other words, is my lie to a pretty girl, plausible or implausible? And of course it is all in the eye of the beholder - does she believe my lie - is my lie plausible. And if it is plausible, then my lie is art.

    And in the same way all religion is a lie - a lie that is plausible to some and implausible to others. Some us find Ganesh, the elephant headed God, implausible; and others find the Trinity implausible. But a billion Hindus find the Hindu Gods plausible, and about a billion Christians find the Trinity plausible.

    But always remember, and never forget, that propaganda is neither true nor false, but only plausible or implausible.

    So let me ask you, face to face, eyeball to eyeball, do you find me plausible?
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    I think modern culture in general has become too clever, contemptuous and self-referential. Everything is an in-joke of an in-joke; parody of parody; abstract of abstract. Its all become too conceptual and smug. There needs to be more purity and less intellectualism. That said, I worked in a photo gallery/digital printing studio for a year - I saw a lot of 'artwork' that was too pretty-pretty and lacked complexity and artistic vision. That isn't much better.
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    Art is what opens up possibilities. It is both indirect and spot-on. Art is also a reflection of the artist's experiences and generation. If art is done right, it cannot be replicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    I think modern culture in general has become too clever, contemptuous and self-referential. Everything is an in-joke of an in-joke; parody of parody; abstract of abstract. Its all become too conceptual and smug. There needs to be more purity and less intellectualism. That said, I worked in a photo gallery/digital printing studio for a year - I saw a lot of 'artwork' that was too pretty-pretty and lacked complexity and artistic vision. That isn't much better.
    So modern art has been infected with hipster-dom?

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