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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    "For from the rising of the sun to its setting My name is great among the nations, and in every place incense is offered to My name, and a pure offering; for My name is great among the nations, says the Lord of hosts."
    --Malachi 1:11


    Yeah, if anything it opens up the possibility of Perennialism.

    [youtube="gJpn6t7SQzE"]Christian twist to Perennialism[/youtube]
    Despite the disturbing, (mildly southpark's "Cartman") accent, this is very interesting, and makes a lot of sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zang View Post
    Have you ever seen something moving in the night sky, did you ever wonder, where did the kinetic energy come from? [...] Any questions?
    why are we assuming that the laws of physics (and logic) as we are familiar with them are universally true and applicable?

    not attempting to disprove the argument, just saying that it makes sense on a certain level but it assumes a closed circuit of reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zang View Post
    Have you ever seen something moving in the night sky, did you ever wonder, where did the kinetic energy come from? Imagining an infinite chain of collisions still begs the question, from where did this seemingly inexplicable eternal force come from?... Any questions?
    More importantly, though,....

    can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are like shooting stars?
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    Smile The Plausible God - the Pause that Refreshes

    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    Of course God or Gods are plausible. It should be plausible to anyone who admits that they don't know everything.
    A short time ago it was plausible that the Sun went round the Earth. But as we discovered more, it became implausible.

    And only a short time ago we found it plausible that madness was caused by demon possession and the churches practised exorcism. But today we have discovered that madness is a result of mental illness that can be treated by a doctor, and so demon possession became implausible.

    And it is this process of discovery that has rendered so many beliefs implausible - such as astrology, eugenics, phrenology, homeopathy, tarot, numerology and MBTI.

    And indeed it is the discoveries of psychometrics that had rendered MBTI implausible. And yet so many of us here find MBTI to be plausible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    A short time ago it was plausible that the Sun went round the Earth. But as we discovered more, it became implausible.

    And only a short time ago we found it plausible that madness was caused by demon possession and the churches practised exorcism. But today we have discovered that madness is a result of mental illness that can be treated by a doctor, and so demon possession became implausible.

    And it is this process of discovery that has rendered so many beliefs implausible - such as astrology, eugenics, phrenology, homeopathy, tarot, numerology and MBTI.

    And indeed it is the discoveries of psychometrics that had rendered MBTI implausible. And yet so many of us here find MBTI to be plausible.
    A short time ago, a lot of things were plausible, and are still plausible. The possibility that there is a God is still plausible, despite the fact that we haven't implausicated it yet. (and... spell check did not correct the word.. awesome. )
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    God - the Plausible and the Implausible

    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    A short time ago, a lot of things were plausible, and are still plausible. The possibility that there is a God is still plausible, despite the fact that we haven't implausicated it yet. (and... spell check did not correct the word.. awesome. )
    Well to some, the elephant headed God, Ganesh, is implausible. And to others, the God with three heads, the Trinity, is implausible.

    So we might say each God is plausible to some and implausible to others.

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    Consciousness project check out Human Consciousness project
    Man suffers only because he takes seriously what the gods made for fun - Watts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Well to some, the elephant headed God, Ganesh, is implausible. And to others, the God with three heads, the Trinity, is implausible.

    So we might say each God is plausible to some and implausible to others.
    At the end of the day, anything that is not proven untrue is plausible.
    (Yea, kind of a sketchy lawyerish retort. But it's true...)
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    I think it's important to differentiate between types of realities. Yeah.. this is going to sound all spacey and far out, but it doesn't make it any less true. There's the reality of the material world which most people usually equate with 'really real', and there's the reality of human nature. It's argued, and possibly logically provable that the material world is all there exists. In which case we are just parts of it, systems governed by rules.

    It seems self-evident that our rules strongly disagree with the assessment of what material world deems as important in terms of proportion, scale as compared to the whole. It's also very likely that our base 'software' cannot possibly comprehend the universe as a whole and has to shorthand it. This constitutes the reality that we perceive on a daily basis.

    If you said God, even just a personal conception of God exists in only a human reality, and I had to choose which reality had precedence, I'd choose the human dimension. Thinkers are probably already getting nauseous reading this. But I do think a person's idea of God is a personification of what is important in being human. An idea with importance that outranks scientific findings.

    The crux of the situation is when your conception of what is important conflicts violently with what other people think is important. But in my opinion this remains the same with or without personification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    At the end of the day, anything that is not proven untrue is plausible.
    (Yea, kind of a sketchy lawyerish retort. But it's true...)
    Sure.

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