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    It's possible to both acknowledge that an act violates your concept of morality, and recognize that it is accepted within another culture. Recognition is not approval.
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    Oh, and fetuses are not human beings.

    Infanticide can in certain instances be morally right, i.e. in less developed nations where birth control is neither used nor known, where families subsist on agriculture and the death of the infant increases the general fitness of the older young.

    Suicide isn't inherently immoral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
    If a man was unfairly put in a situation for which he could not feed his family, would it be wrong for him to steal to feed his family?
    Sure it would be wrong, but it would also be *worth* it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    It's possible to both acknowledge that an act violates your concept of morality, and recognize that it is accepted within another culture. Recognition is not approval.
    Word!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6sticks View Post
    Moral relativists are cowards. Culture is always secondary to human life. Regardless of where it happens, genocide is wrong. I have no respect for anyone who denies this.
    You are expressing your own values. Can you tell us why anyone else should share them, though?

    I happen to think that genocide is wrong too. But I can perfectly understand why some people would think otherwise, without losing any respect for them.

    If I condemned people for believing differently than I do, then I would be no better than those who would kill me for believing differently than they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    It's possible to both acknowledge that an act violates your concept of morality, and recognize that it is accepted within another culture. Recognition is not approval.
    Exactly.

    Edit: well done Ivy !

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    Yeah, this is something I've actually devoted a great deal of energy to intellectually justifying.

    I understand that different cultures have had different power structures and concepts of right vs. wrong, blah blah blah

    But I do think there are some absolutes hidden in there. The Nazis (lol Godwin'd) may have justified genocide, but there are many accounts of Nazi guards and so on that were so traumatized by what they'd done that they developed mental illnesses. They seemed to intuitively know what they were doing was wrong.

    A psychologist came and spoke at my university, he wrote this book on the topic:

    "Becoming Evil: How Ordinary People Commit Genocide and Mass Killing" James Waller

    And he talks in great length about the psychological damage done to the people who commit those atrocities, regardless of how justified they feel it is.
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    Grrrr... I understand ignorami too, but that doesn't make their actions any less horrendous.
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    CaptainChick has been writing her sociology book, in her head, "Would you be a Nazi?" for four years now. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nemo View Post
    But I do think there are some absolutes hidden in there. The Nazis (lol Godwin'd) may have justified genocide, but there are many accounts of Nazi guards and so on that were so traumatized by what they'd done that they developed mental illnesses. They seemed to intuitively know what they were doing was wrong.
    The moral code of learned religious doctrine could have had something to do with that, too.

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