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    Wine is the blood of our Lord and Saviour Iesus Christus, and thus it brings the best out in each of us - it is blasphemy to suggest otherwise.

    Calix meus inebrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    I think there are no true colors, just many facets.
    This seems reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    This seems reasonable.
    Sadly, it also renders Cyndi Lauper a liar.

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    Well, most drunken behaviour is caused by a placebo effect. People behaving how drunks are "supposed" to behave.

    Aside from that, if the "true" self is revealed through alcohol, then every human being is far less coherent, less intelligent and less considerate than their "false" selves. It's a depressant, it lowers certain brain functions, changing one's personality. Other drugs have different effects. All these psychological claims about it revealing the truth need some impersonal evidence to be taken seriously.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    "I can't trust a man who doesn't drink, because a man who doesn't drink doesn't trust himself."
    "I can trust a man who doesn't drink, because a man who doesn't drink values a clear and coherent mind."

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    Even those idiots who pretend to be drunk, partaking in behavior they normally wouldn't or initiating relationships with people they normally wouldn't are saying something about themselves. Whether or not it's just the placebo effect or truly being shwasty-face -- a person is definately showing their true colors. People loose all of their inhibitions after a certain point - inhibitions I believe are there after years of social conditioning and molding themselves to a particular personality.

    Hmm. Though I will ask...
    Drunken words speak sober thoughts?

    I'm unsure as to what to think about this however. Sometimes people say things in order to get the desired outcome, even while inebriated. Or do you truly believe there are instances where a person just "slips"?

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    gefus, my communications book is depressingly dull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    I think there are no true colors, just many facets.
    This and btw your latin sucks, it is called "in vino veritas"

    I for example think that I am a very controlled guy and that's how it goes when I am drinking. I hadnt had a psychological distance to the intercolutor when I was sober before but when I am drunk I loose my last bit of shame and become very talkative. Agressive I gladly dont become from drinking, for that I dont need alcohol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donna Cecilia View Post
    It is.

    Their subconscious self and repressed thoughts show up when they are drunk -not wasted. Alcohol weakens mental defenses and self-control mechanisms.

    If I want to know someone's true self (and have no time or patience to use my usual tactics), I get him his favourite drink in a friendly context.
    I agree with this but need to add the caveat that alcohol amplifies true self.

    But I do have to apply this to Enneagram theory. If it's true self as defined by Ichazo, whereby the impacts of nurture have been removed, self-actualisation back to true self isn't a good idea!

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    I can become all things at one point or another while intoxicated.....holy shit......I AM all things!


    Jk, I think alcohol depends on three things, your mood, your circumstances, and your uninhibited self. Most of the time when you are seeing someone drunk it is the combination of those three elements that play into their observable personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvyak View Post
    Haha, you mixed french and latin.



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    This and btw your latin sucks, it is called "in vino veritas"
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