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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    we are all evil according to this definition, considering that everyone has disagreed with someone else at some point in their lives and both people thought they were right.
    That's too much of a simplistic take on it. There is to what extent someone goes to, what action they take.

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    There is no such thing as "evil" in the meaning here because you mean universal evil, and all morals are subjective. (Morality comes into play because "evil" = issue of "good or bad", which is an issue of morality/ethics in this sense.)

    You can say "according to my definition, that person is evil", but you cannot throw the label of universal evil on someone because 'universal (meaning objective) evil' doesn't exist.

    can you call someone evil if what they are doing is really, really bad, but they genuinely think that they are doing the right thing?
    You could call their actions evil, and thereby them, I suppose (if they only did "evil" things? (practically speaking)), but it would be incorrect to call the person evil, as in evil-hearted. If you are to tack the evil label onto "them" as the result of their actions, what you are really doing is fusing the man's evil actions and the human responsible for the evil actions into one, calling the actions evil and just throwing the label onto a whole person because the actions emanate from a person. But, if he does not consider what he is doing "bad" (in any amount), the person themselves is not evil.

    if someone is doing something bad and harming people (or I think in this case aliens) that they can be deemed evil...
    The issue here is your personal, individual moral judgment of "harming people" (or doing "something bad") is "bad." This is not an objective moral, though.

    If you want to call someone evil by your own standards, shoot away... but realize this judgment is not objective.

    Edit: Also not sure which is Fe or Fi. Perhaps you can either explain or clarify so we can try to figure out where the error is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crack View Post
    There is no such thing as "evil" in the meaning here because you mean universal evil, and all morals are subjective. (Morality comes into play because "evil" = issue of "good or bad", which is an issue of morality/ethics in this sense.)

    You can say "according to my definition, that person is evil", but you cannot throw the label of universal evil on someone because 'universal (meaning objective) evil' doesn't exist.

    You could call their actions evil, and thereby them, I suppose (if they only did "evil" things? (practically speaking)), but it would be incorrect to call the person evil, as in evil-hearted. If you are to tack the evil label onto "them" as the result of their actions, what you are really doing is fusing the man's evil actions and the human responsible for the evil actions into one, calling the actions evil and just throwing the label onto a whole person because the actions emanate from a person. But, if he does not consider what he is doing "bad" (in any amount), the person themselves is not evil.

    The issue here is your personal, individual moral judgment of "harming people" (or doing "something bad") is "bad." This is not an objective moral, though.

    If you want to call someone evil by your own standards, shoot away... but realize this judgment is not objective.

    Edit: Also not sure which is Fe or Fi. Perhaps you can either explain or clarify so we can try to figure out where the error is.
    Agreed.
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