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    I always feel a certain pang of sympathy for those who try to logically justify / disprove matters of faith.

    It makes me wonder if they've an honest consideration of either.

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    either...faith?
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    'Cause you can't handle me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    either...faith?
    Logic and/or faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    It all comes down to the probable versus what's possible.

    I'm big into hope, (er... sometimes), and not so big into blind faith.


    Probable is a dilemma of perspective. Possibility is the physical execution of the probable - in this, both are linked.

    Faith is unavoidably blind - to entertain a system of belief without empirical proof is to believe without falsifiable premise.

    Yet, to summarily dismiss because we lack empiricism is to miss the point of scientific enquiry altogether.


    Thus, faith is not a question of logic; faith is fundamentally alogical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post


    Probable is a dilemma of perspective. Possibility is the physical execution of the probable - in this, both are linked.

    Faith is unavoidably blind - to entertain a system of belief without empirical proof is to believe without falsifiable premise.

    Yet, to summarily dismiss because we lack empiricism is to miss the point of scientific enquiry altogether.


    Thus, faith is not a question of logic; faith is fundamentally alogical.
    Minus this statement, "Probable is a dilemma of perspective."

    Yes, you are absolutely correct, and by that I mean, I agree with you, .
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Minus this statement, "Probable is a dilemma of perspective."

    Yes, you are absolutely correct, and by that I mean, I agree with you, .
    Despite our difference, we find unity. Perhaps as a result of it.


    Probability as a dilemma of perspective -

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Yes, you are absolutely correct, and by that I mean, I agree with you, .
    I know. It's scary to think one could disagree with Night. Well, I suppose they can, but they'd be wrong. I think...it'd be scary to think he could be wrong. I kid you not--

    :horor:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    Despite our difference, we find unity. Perhaps as a result of it.


    Probability as a dilemma of perspective -
    Oy vey, a scientifically-inclined Buddhist.

    And speaking of Eastern philosophies...

    Lao Tzu was the man!!!

    Taoism, I can dig it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeliriousDisposition View Post
    I know. It's scary to think one could disagree with Night. Well, I suppose they can, but they'd be wrong. I think...it'd be scary to think he could be wrong. I kid you not--
    Yeah, he might be relatively, or even markedly, intelligent and physically attractive to boot, but he ain't no Einstein. (no offense Night)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Yeah, he might be relatively, or even markedly, intelligent and physically attractive to boot, but he ain't no Einstein. (no offense Night)
    He's his own brilliance, same shines within you! And Einstein thought out of the box, for sure. I think Night has no box.

    I wish my dad was like him. Sigh.

    EEP!

    Errr. K..CC...this is my last post..disregard the other one telling you I wouldn't be me if I did post again.

    Oiii .... well, I guess it might not be me... But what the hell! I can play with that set up.

    Boo. I am not Sunny DD. I am Night.

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