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    I think if it helps people, it's a good thing. There are way more harmful things that can be done.. taking pictures to see first hand how others see you vs. medication? I'll take the former.

    I've never really had body issues.. I can't understand them to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Or you know an evil plot by evil religious to enslave women?
    Men within religion are also required to be modest and display humility. Hairshirts, starvation, self-flagellation, chastity, all stupid things to appease your god. He's awfully needy.

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    If someone thinks they are stupid, should we convince them that intelligence is unimportant, or help them recognize and make the most of the ways in which they are intelligent? Looks are not everything, but neither are they nothing. Appreciation of the beauty of the human body, in its many manifestations, is as valid as appreciation of beauty in other forms. As always, it is also in the eye of the beholder. Helping someone to behold the beauty in themselves, both inside and out, seems only worthwhile.

    As for modesty, not all religions require or put a premium on it. Also, modesty in an apparently religious context can sometimes be cultural in origin. I am extremely modest in appearance by modern western standards, but due entirely to personal preference and habit. I would not follow a religion that attempted to dictate personal standards of appearance, and the spiritual path I follow indeed does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Perhaps you need to ask yourself the same question. Servitude requires modesty and humility. Think about it.
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    So, the doctrine preceded the preference? God... exists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Men within religion are also required to be modest and display humility. Hairshirts, starvation, self-flagellation, chastity, all stupid things to appease your god. He's awfully needy.
    Oh cool, you've progressed from generalisations to insulting my god. How terribly grown up of you.

    Of course your alternative of unmitigated depression, aggression and addiction is so much more appealing. You win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Do you want to know what Nietzsche thinks about you?
    No I'll ask some other madman with a mind rotting STD will I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Oh cool, you've progressed from generalisations to insulting my god. How terribly grown up of you.

    Of course your alternative of unmitigated depression, aggression and addiction is so much more appealing. You win!
    Why in iSpy, whenever I see your name come up, you're involved in a little catty spat with another member? Regardless of the topic.

    You weren't always like this man. Reach out to Jesus for Peace, is what I'd recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    No I'll ask some other madman with a mind rotting STD will I?
    See? What's up with the negativity lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Even Nietzsche didn't read Nietzsche.
    Maybe he did, but he just didn't understand it.

    .......

    And, as requested, as a mod who not only doesn't have an STD but also has very little love life at the moment and has quite a variance of feelings about her body image:

    I actually see some good discussion in this thread, where various disparate views are engaging each other. Pretty amazing, the variety here.

    Let's not ruin it by starting to take it personally. If someone responds to your post with ideas of their own, they're trying to tell you something about how they see the world. Try to understand why they're saying what they're saying. If you're the sort who just wants to hold your prior view and not have conflicting views brought up against it, you probably shouldn't be in this thread in the first place; that's not what a discussion group is for.

    ... uggh, that was so banal. I'm annoyed I even felt compelled to say that.
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    Hey since we're on Nietzsche and mind health, I'll have to add one of my favorite quotes of his:

    A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. - Friedrich Nietzsche

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