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    and...............you truly know God and I dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungrypossum View Post
    and...............you truly know God and I dont.
    No I never said that! I only said that he or she who truly knows God has their heart opened. When I opened my heart I came to understand that there wasn't only one path. He or she who knows God will not judge others based on what they believe about them but rather will see what lies in their hearts and love them for who they are. Because God lives within each and everyone of us, whether we realize it or not. If God has reached you through the Bible, then I'm very happy for you. That just wasn't his path for me.
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    well, i was not born from the womb praising God and loving God. so my love for him is a choice.

    if homosexuality is love like kiddo says, then it must mean that you must love the person of the opposite sex. this must mean that its a choice too.

    it occured to me a few minutes ago that we had to learn our ABCs too, when we were growing up. this means that our knowledge was not our own, it was always borrowed from someone else. so i really truly wonder what "our own wisdom" means. my wisdom, as i have said, is my bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungrypossum View Post
    well, i was not born from the womb praising God and loving God. so my love for him is a choice.
    The weird thing is, the moment I realized God, I understood that I had always loved him. Maybe we just experience God differently because we are different people.

    if homosexuality is love like kiddo says, then it must mean that you must love the person of the opposite sex. this must mean that its a choice too.
    I never said that homosexuality is love. I said, I need to love somebody of either sex before I can feel lust for them. You made the assumption that homosexuality is always lust, and I was just pointing out that isn't true for me.
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    indeed our experience is very different because i'm only aware that my loving God comes through the circumstances I go through that builds up my trust in him. i did not love him immediately, i hated him all my life because i assumed he thought i was a disgusting lecherous little @#$%^, but on the other hand, i could feel his love for me. in fact, it is learning to submit to him and doing all the "difficult" things the bible tells me to do that is teaching me lessons more and more each day. it is through knowing that i am becoming (i am not yet) a stronger person that i love him more

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    you guys should kinda calm down... this has diverged in so many ways from the topic, it's ridiculous.

    oughta look outside of the bible a bit... If you notice most of the things in there aren't meant to be taken literally...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hungrypossum View Post
    if homosexuality is love like kiddo says, then it must mean that you must love the person of the opposite sex. this must mean that its a choice too.
    The point is simple. The dynamics of relationships don't change whether they are heterosexual or homosexual. You can lust after them or love them, just the same as it works with heterosexual relationships/attractions.

    so i really truly wonder what "our own wisdom" means. my wisdom, as i have said, is my bible.
    My wisdom (if you want to call it that ), consists of me analyzing the possible solutions I see, and going with whichever one makes the seems to make the most sense. In this case, it's much more logical for me to think that some people are just wired to be attracted to their own sex instead of the opposite one.

    The alternate idea of people willingly choosing that they want to go down a path that most likely results in more hardships, such as less acceptance among peers, and possible discrimination/hostility makes absolutely no sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hungrypossum View Post
    indeed our experience is very different because i'm only aware that my loving God comes through the circumstances I go through that builds up my trust in him. i did not love him immediately, i hated him all my life because i assumed he thought i was a disgusting lecherous little @#$%^, but on the other hand, i could feel his love for me. in fact, it is learning to submit to him and doing all the "difficult" things the bible tells me to do that is teaching me lessons more and more each day. it is through knowing that i am becoming (i am not yet) a stronger person that i love him more
    Oh, I came to realize God through very similar circumstances. I was lost in an inescapable darkness. I hated myself and everyone, and lost all sense of purpose. And then I chose to forgive myself for all my failures, mistakes, and weaknesses, and that was all it took. The moment I was able to see my own wounded heart I felt his presence. And he healed me and I could then open my heart to the world. I could see into the hearts of others, and I realized the beauty of his world. I thought I hated him because of how he made me, and I came to understand that I really love how he made me. I love being imperfect, and knowing so little about everything. I love being bisexual, and I love having had to face so much adversity. He made me as a person who would know this world in a way that not many people would ever experience. And somehow, I realized I had always known this somehow, but I just wasn't aware of it until I was ready to accept it. I had always loved him, but I didn't realize it until I had tried to stop.
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    You can lust after them or love them, just the same as it works with heterosexual relationships/attractions.
    The sin is lust, not love. Thankfully, we cannot see what others are thinking. It would be truly frightening if someone was imagining us naked in their minds. The thing is, God can see what we're thinking.

    The alternate idea of people willingly choosing that they want to go down a path that most likely results in more hardships, such as less acceptance among peers, and possible discrimination/hostility makes absolutely no sense to me.
    YEP! ^^ The fact that I am treading the difficult path is what makes me a stronger person. If you're not afraid of difficulty or even death, then what make you worried fearful or sad anymore. Told ya Jesus is joy.

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