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  • I love fur! Bring on the dead animals!

    6 17.65%
  • I think fur is beautiful, but I'd never wear it myself

    5 14.71%
  • Indifferent

    10 29.41%
  • I'm against fur.

    13 38.24%
  • I'm not from the Western world and in our culture fur is considered acceptable

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    Sooo death is ok as long as it's not cute death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I also don't blame people for targeting the specific issues that hit a cord with them. No one can be all things to all people. So if a PETA chick wants to do her thing, but doesn't do anything for abused women in Afghanistan, that's okay. Compared to the masses who do nothing on anything.
    True, but when you're comparing two situations where animals are harmed....I dunno, it seems strange to be against one thing for animal rights but not other things that are animal rights. It just looks a little...silly to me. And silly to be wasting energy on things that aren't necessarily as...important? as other animal/human rights issues. If it's about animals being inhumanely killed, ok, but if it's that they're being killed at all...meh.

    And well, I think it's better to do nothing than to assault people with paint for wearing fur. But that's just me.
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    Actually the PETA people make me want to spitefully wear fur as a statement rather than for practical reasons.

    Too bad it's so expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    True, but when you're comparing two situations where animals are harmed....I dunno, it seems strange to be against one thing for animal rights but not other things that are animal rights. It just looks a little...silly to me. And silly to be wasting energy on things that aren't necessarily as...important? as other animal/human rights issues.

    And well, I think it's better to do nothing than to assault people with paint for wearing fur. But that's just me.
    Heh, I think the paint stuff is amusing. And then they'll have naked PETA chicks at protests to be anti-fur!

    But I mean, there's people fighting for marijuana legalization. Maybe not the most dire injustice, but it's close to them, and it doesn't mean the hippie or the PETA person doesn't care about Afghan women getting treated like dirt. That's why there's more money and foundations out there for treatment of women around the world, lots of people care about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    You really don't see the difference here? We're talking about killing living beings on a whim, not sacrificing a cup of Starbucks. I'm not slippery sloping this issue--you are.
    It's not a whim. It's for fur, a high-value commodity. People make their livings in the fur industry supplying this market.

    It's a commodity just as meat is a commodity, and to my way of thinking the exact same moral calculus applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    It's not a whim. It's for fur, a high-value commodity. People make their livings in the fur industry supplying this market.
    The fact that people make their living on it doesn't really justify it. People used to make a living owning slaves.

    We could lose the slavery industry, and the fur industry where the animals get killed, and the economy would keep tootin. People would spend their money on other shit, like fake fur, sheered fur, blackmarket animal-got-killed fur (meaning there's less of it, an a high-fashion women isn't going to go into the backalleys for some fur), or other dumb fashion things, which creates the new jobs.

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    I'm against fur. We can mass produce it cheaper and with better quality than the real thing, plus, that would free up manpower that can be used in a more economic & ecologic sustainable way, like teaching. And apart from that
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    The fact that people make their living on it doesn't really justify it. People used to make a living owning slaves.

    We could lose the slavery industry, and the fur industry where the animals get killed, and the economy would keep tootin. People would spend their money on other shit, like fake fur, sheered fur, blackmarket animal-got-killed fur (meaning there's less of it, an a high-fashion women isn't going to go into the backalleys for some fur), or other dumb fashion things, which creates the new jobs.
    Yeppers. And I'm all for re-thinking things that make people buttloads of money, but harm or kill living things. The latter should bear more weight than the former. New industries will always crop up to provide jobs. It happens at the speed of light these days. Eventually, we'll all spend less money on gas, but we'll spend more money on alternative fuel sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    God save us from the day when we have to defend every possession we own and every act we perform on the basis of "need." There are a million things you don't need, but have or do nonetheless... you don't "need" an internet connection. You don't need coffee. You don't need to get out of town for the weekend. You don't need a pet dog. You don't need personal control over your thermostat, you don't need private property rights, you don't need your own vehicle... I'm not willing to entertain that approach to living.
    Good point, but when there is a need, you have to ask, "For/to what?"

    Certainly, birds need air to fly, children need food to eat, etcetera. Much of the time, when people say they need something, it's in order to fulfill an emotional desire. To cut to the chase, the issue is whether that emotional desire is needed in itself.

    If you are going to re-prioritize, you must determine what you want to achieve. Do you want to life? Do you want to become a rockstar?

    O, what do you think is essential for the bear-necessity life?

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    [QUOTE=Randomnity;1406903]Actually the PETA people make me want to spitefully wear fur as a statement rather than for practical reasons.
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    This.

    I picked the first option mostly for this reason (I like fur, but its not my favorite thing in the world).

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