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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Max Stirner wrote a wonderfully insightful book on the matter: 'The Ego and Its Own'.
    I'm familiar with Mr. Stirner.
    Egoism's quite an interesting concept, it's too bad he was shadowed by Marx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheFlesh View Post
    It is completely wrong, in my eyes, that we let society assign such a negative connotation to the word, “selfish”. I have 4 points to make on this. First, to say that we’re wrong to follow our instincts and do what’s best for ourselves is not a bad thing.
    Here you have just posed that calling 'selfish acts' bad is incorrect. Then you go and say contradictory things like this:

    It’s situational and cannot be pinned down to always being “bad” or always being “good”.
    Fourth, to be selfish is not always even a bad thing, it’s situational.
    So can selfishness be bad or not?
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    This will not end well...
    But it will at least be poetic, I suppose...

    Hmm... But what if it does end well?
    Then I suppose it will be a different sort of poetry, a preferable sort...
    A sort I could become accustomed to...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    Selfishness, on the other hand, is egocentric..
    Both are egocentric.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Max Stirner wrote a wonderfully insightful book on the matter: 'The Ego and Its Own'.
    Ew. Stirner.
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    This will not end well...
    But it will at least be poetic, I suppose...

    Hmm... But what if it does end well?
    Then I suppose it will be a different sort of poetry, a preferable sort...
    A sort I could become accustomed to...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Schopenhauer View Post
    Both are egocentric.



    Ew. Stirner.
    Ok, fine. The selfish attitude is self-serving.

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    I think that in terms of selfishness there is a normal, which could be better described as legitimate self interest, and the pathological, which is selfish to the point of denying, demeaning, debasing or diminishing the self of others by objectifying or using them.

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