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    "And here comes in the question whether it is better to be loved rather than feared, or feared rather than loved. It might perhaps be answered that we should wish to be both; but since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved.

    For of men it may generally be affirmed, that they are thankless, fickle, false studious to avoid danger, greedy of gain, devoted to you while you are able to confer benefits upon them, and ready, as I said before, while danger is distant, to shed their blood, and sacrifice their property, their lives, and their children for you; but in the hour of need they turn against you. The Prince, therefore, who without otherwise securing himself builds wholly on their professions is undone. For the friendships which we buy with a price, and do not gain by greatness and nobility of character, though they be fairly earned are not made good, but fail us when we have occasion to use them."

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    I want others to love fearing me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingenue View Post
    I want others to love fearing me.
    Your avatar might be too cute for that .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    Your avatar might be too cute for that .
    Interesting, I thought her avatar had more of a "you want a piece of me?" vibe to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingenue View Post
    I want others to love fearing me.
    I agree.

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    i usually just inspire fear.
    i don't care if they like it or not.
    every normal man must be tempted, at times,
    to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
    and begin slitting throats.
    h.l. mencken

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    I don't believe a person can inspire fear or love in others - a person will love or fear another based on what they know about themselves (what it is they love or what it is they fear). Since each person's perception may be (and probably is) different, I'd say it's better to simply be yourself, and others will respond as they may.
    ...doesn't work or play well with others...

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    I want to be loved by those important to me. Everyone else I don't care about.
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    I don't subscribe to Machiavelli's point of view, and here is why...

    If you've ever been in a fight, or known people who had been in some physical fights, then consider who is more dangerous: The angry opponent, or the frightened opponent? The enemy who is angry wants revenge; the enemy who is frightened wants to survive. Survival is a stronger imperative, and therefore the scared man will punch you in the throat or kick you in the groin, gouge at your eyes, bite your fingers, reach for a weapon of any kind available, or do whatever he must to take you down. Consideration of your health and the ramifications of your injury are secondary at best, if they figure at all.

    Now extend this to the body politic. The populace that loves you, or which is indifferent to you, will adopt at worst a live-and-let-live attitude. The frightened populace... those who fear you... have reason to hate you, and will take you out if they can.

    Just my thoughts.

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    You can have both. Weak men are neither loved nor feared, but a strong man is not obligated to only settle for one or the other.

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