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    Default Do you think self interest plays a part in 'genuine' morality?

    To truly follow the moral law is to put aside self interest and follow moral commands unconditionally.

    That's what I think anyway. What do you think?

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    I think you are wrong. I think it is direct self interest and, perhaps through mirror neurons, indirect self interest that, convoluted by culture, perpetuate morality.

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    What is, "doing good because it makes you feel good" anything other than self interest?



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    Absolutely. That's all that morality is, along with herd-interest.

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    I think the value of empathy is erroneously downplayed by the fact that, as humans that we are, we do good to others because we'd like others to do the same for us.

    How else, would we'd be compelled to do good to others while still maintaining a sense of self...and NOT be robots?

    When abiding by amoral law becomes a habit, I think it becomes more mechanical, and it the human brain no longer thinks in terms selfishness or altruism......it becomes a matter of our identities being tied to that moral conduct.


    So yes, genuine morality has to stem partially from self-interest. But also from empathy. Otherwise it wouldn't be morality, it would simply be self-interest and we wouldn't mind being moral hypocrites.

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    I think it's erroneous to downplay anything because you can explain it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    What is, "doing good because it makes you feel good" anything other than self interest?
    Impartiality and equal consideration for everybody's interests means self interest cannot play a part.

    Self interest is not merely wrong however to be moral you must at least be able to perform your moral obligation without reference to any personal goals.

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    Define moral law as its perceived universally.

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    Originally posted by Nicodemus
    I think you are wrong. I think it is direct self interest and, perhaps through mirror neurons, indirect self interest that, convoluted by culture, perpetuate morality.
    Um, what? Please explain how being selfish in our society is considered moral?

    Originally posted by JocktheMotie
    What is, "doing good because it makes you feel good" anything other than self interest?
    Some people are morally empathetic because they care for the well being of others and not just themselves. There are times when I'll do something for someone else, regardless of the way I feel, because I know it is the right thing to do.


    The whole point of morality is to make the decision not to act in self-interest, when the well being of others is concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Brain View Post
    The whole point of morality is to make the decision not to act in self-interest...
    If you are betting on a horse race, always put your money on the horse called, "Self Interest", 'cause you know they are trying to win.

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