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    The point of existence is unequivocally futile. We simply exist because we have to. Existence is the manifestation of the circular reasoning that justifies reality, concealing the infinite amount of other subsets that contain their own form of circular reasoning. The point of existence is simply the result of the question "Why?". Thus, this question keeps the cycle going, for it can never be answered. There isn't an answer to why we are here, because we simply can't not be here (apologies for my double negative). There is, then, no beginning and no ending, and we are left to cycle for eternity in the system that wants to be answered yet unfortunately can never be answered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OptoGypsy View Post
    The idea of reincarnation is important in society, I'm simply a weird ass Fucker
    It is admirable to be a weird ass fucker, but it is also important to question things. More importantly.. to question the nature of existence, since that's all we seem to be doing here..

    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    The point of existence is unequivocally futile. We simply exist because we have to. Existence is the manifestation of the circular reasoning that justifies reality, concealing the infinite amount of other subsets that contain their own form of circular reasoning. The point of existence is simply the result of the question "Why?".
    Exactly.

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    @Alea_iacta_est @Nights and Days, Questioning our existence is what leads people to make the choices they make and live the life they feel is right/ the life they want to live so by asking questions we lead ourselves to our destiny that is the journey of each individual life

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptoGypsy View Post
    @Alea_iacta_est @Nights and Days, Questioning our existence is what leads people to make the choices they make and live the life they feel is right/ the life they want to live so by asking questions we lead ourselves to our destiny that is the journey of each individual life
    Questioning our existence drives us to nihilistic insanity, for we arrive upon the same problem that existence attempts to solve (which is much more infinitely capable and complex than us due to our existence's intrinsic expansion). What determines how we live our lives and our "destiny" is how we approach life in general. We will never gain the answer, we will simply experience the system an indefinite amount of times, so we must forge out paths based not on philosophical inquires but material advantages and we must, amazingly, follow the self-justifying logic of reality to succeed as an individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    Do you subscribe to the belief that the mind is comprised of the ego, id and super ego?
    I'm not sure. They're concepts or words to better define the human psyche, that much is clear.

    Alan Watts had some interesting ideas to contradict the ego/id/superego theory. I'm not sure I believe his theory any more, but it's a unique perspective that I'd like to see referenced more in the psychology community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptoGypsy View Post
    @Alea_iacta_est @Nights and Days, Questioning our existence is what leads people to make the choices they make and live the life they feel is right/ the life they want to live so by asking questions we lead ourselves to our destiny that is the journey of each individual life
    Nope, I would not say that it is questioning existence which leads most people to make the choices they make in life!

    Most people drift through life without treading too deeply into such matters besides experiencing the stray thoughts in passing which they so quickly shrug off just as soon as they had entered their minds.

    To me, however, the question of existence, just as the reality of my impending death, looms like a vulture circling overhead and it is something I simply cannot ignore.

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    @Alea_iacta_est That is what I meant if I was going to elaborate on my original post @Nights and Days Most of those people discovered religion and have chosen that as the definite answer to why the exist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyedecker View Post
    I'm not sure. They're concepts or words to better define the human psyche, that much is clear.

    Alan Watts had some interesting ideas to contradict the ego/id/superego theory. I'm not sure I believe his theory any more, but it's a unique perspective that I'd like to see referenced more in the psychology community.

    If I still have the book and can find the essay, I will try to copy some of it tomorrow. I'm tired and need to sleep now.
    Consciousness begets the brain, the brain begets the mind.

    At least, that's my understanding of it. If anyone has something to add to that, or correct, I'd love it.

    Quote Originally Posted by OptoGypsy View Post
    @Alea_iacta_est That is what I meant if I was going to elaborate on my original post @Nights and Days Most of those people discovered religion and have chosen that as the definite answer to why the exist
    Those people are lost until they start thinking for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptoGypsy View Post
    Most of those people discovered religion and have chosen that as the definite answer to why the exist
    To that I say: Ignorance is Bliss. To worry oneself about the hidden, all-consuming turmoil that plagues existence as a whole provides a rather bleak outlook.

    Based on my philosophical inquiry, we will reintegrate into existence (and possibly other subsets) an infinite amount of times. While this would of course explain life after death, it brings about something that is much more intolerable and quite unnerving. While the experience will be passed on through this paradox, we will experience not only every life, but every imaginable death. We will experience all of the torture that has been wrought on our own species by our own hands, and we will experience it an infinite-fold through the inevitable repetition of timelines (which is still possible under the paradox).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    To that I say: Ignorance is Bliss. To worry oneself about the hidden, all-consuming turmoil that plagues existence as a whole provides a rather bleak outlook.

    Based on my philosophical inquiry, we will reintegrate into existence (and possibly other subsets) an infinite amount of times. While this would of course explain life after death, it brings about something that is much more intolerable and quite unnerving. While the experience will be passed on through this paradox, we will experience not only every life, but every imaginable death. We will experience all of the torture that has been wrought on our own species by our own hands, and we will experience it an infinite-fold through the inevitable repetition of timelines (which is still possible under the paradox).
    This "unnerving" truth has been apparent to me for a long, long time.

    How have you dealt with it?

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