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    Smile God, the Author and Haptic Manners

    God is the author of everything. And Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche informed us that God is dead, just as Roland Bathes informed us the author is dead.

    And so we are rediscovering God as the Goddess Gaia, and rediscovering the author as the writer.

    Just look around us. We are all writing. We are writing and responding to one another. And we are learning that the meaning of any communication is it's response. We are starting to listen to the vibrations (the vibs) rather than looking for logic. And we are starting to listen to the vibs resonating with one another. We are starting to listen to one another rather than look at one another. And we are starting to be touched by one another. Sometimes this can be startling. But we are only starting off so we need to learn haptic manners.

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    Fortunately, Barthes was wrong; unfortunately, Nietzsche was too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Fortunately, Barthes was wrong; unfortunately, Nietzsche was too.
    God is dead. Long live the Goddess.

    The author is dead. Long live the writer.

    It's true, we are rediscovering God, but not God as we knew Him.

    And we are rediscovering the author, but not the author as we knew him.

    We are going where no man has gone before and discovering a world, but not the world as we knew it, Jim.

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    Default The roads we take, Harvey.

    God died in some places but not in every place.

    The author is dead for some but not for everyone.

    So we are rediscovering god, but others still adhere to the old one as we knew and forgot about him.

    Some readers have become authors, other authors never read, other readers never author.

    Yes, Harvey, two roads diverged in a yellow wood.

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    Smile The Proprioceptive, the Olfactory, the Auditory and the Haptic Senses

    Central keeps us in touch with one another.

    We only have to reach out with our finger tips to be in touch.

    And there is no warning. It is not as though you journey to see me. No, you appear immediately. One moment we are not in touch and the next moment we are in touch.

    And when you touch me suddenly, it can be a shock. It is like a sudden loud noise and I am startled.

    But this is the nature of touch.

    But all we have learnt is visual manners. We are trained at school in visual manners. We are trained how to argue. We are trained how to be logical. We are trained how to set out an argument. We are trained to think linearly and sequentially, in the same manner a book is written.

    We are trained to a point of view. And we are trained to see that each individual has their unique point of view. And so we are trained in perspective. We are trained to see one another in perspective. We look into the distance and see the vanishing point.

    And realising that I have only been trained in visual manners and wanting to keep in touch with you, I went to haptic manners class.

    Naturally the first thing we were told is to close our eyes. At first this was disorientating and scary, but like blind men and women our other senses came into play.

    We discovered the proprioceptive sense by dancing with our eyes closed. And we discovered our olfactory sense by putting our nose close to those things around us. And we rediscovered our aural sense by listening to all the sounds coming into the room.

    And finally, as the class promised, we were introduced to the haptic sense, the sense of touch.

    And the haptic sense was introduced in an interesting way. We paired off and did what they called face massage. First one then the other.

    But if this wasn't enough then we did foot massage. First one then the other.

    And by this time we were thoroughly immersed in the haptic sense.

    And our teacher told us to open our eyes to see where we had come. She told us we had moved from the privileged sense of sight to the democratic senses of proprioception, the olfactory sense, the aural sense and finally the haptic sense.

    By this time our minds were blown, so she would keep the qualities of the haptic sense to the next class. And our final class would be on haptic manners.

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    Are you a religious person such that you believe in a god or even pray?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Are you a religious person such that you believe in a god or even pray?
    Fortunately I am both a believer and an atheist. I manage to do this by suspending my disbelief at will. Just as I suspend my disbelief when I enter a movie theatre, I suspend my disbelief when I enter a church.

    And when I leave the movie theatre, my disbelief returns. Just as when I leave the church, my disbelief returns.

    So in a church or movie theatre I am in a trance. And when I leave I wake up.

    Movies are of course designed to induce a trance in the same way worship is designed to induce a trance.

    And so the possibility now arises that we can design our own trances with a video camera or our own religious rituals. We can become trance designers.

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    I have heard of studies that suggest what I myself have found to be true, that one cannot at will decide whether to believe or not, but that once one has found something to be true, the opposite is no longer believable. I would say that what you describe is a kind of enchantment but not belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    I have heard of studies that suggest what I myself have found to be true, that one cannot at will decide whether to believe or not, but that once one has found something to be true, the opposite is no longer believable. I would say that what you describe is a kind of enchantment but not belief.
    Yes, it depends on the level of enchantment.

    The first level is naturally enchantment. The second level is enchantment within enchantment. And the third level is enchantment within enchantment within enchantment.

    The fourth level is interesting because it has all the qualities of reality. In fact it is more real than real. It is the Truth with a capital "T". It is religious Truth.

    And so we chant in church to enchant ourselves right down to the fourth level of belief.

    And so as you say, Nicodemus, once we have discovered something is True, we have no alternative but to believe.

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    I do concur, yet I beg to differ: those are two very different forms of truths.

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