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    Default Stress drives the whole world? (Because we are all under stress?)

    Whatever we do, we do to get rid of stress?

    Even the richest, the most secure or even the happiest person is under stress? I mean aren't we all under stress? It's as if there is a load on your chest that never goes away.

    Even if you play the right cards, do the right things (or) work hard and get rid of that load, some other load comes and sits on your chest. Even worst, you feel you'll lose what you gained (above) or have?

    the richest person is scared of losing his money and the happiest person is scared of losing what brings happiness. Of course the stress levels vary. But stress we have. All of us.

    What us the solution? To let go is it? Not be attached to anything in the 1st place?

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    Stress is incredibly painful. Maybe this is why people who have had near death experiences say that "those .... seconds were the best moments of my life". The load that plague our minds plagues our bodies. The the stress away the body feels good. Or vise versa.

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    Even the Earth creates hurricanes to alleviate the heat of its core. It's the nature of the beast.
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    Fundamentally, I don't think this is the goal. Humans do not live to avoid the bad, they live to pursue the good. Clearly if our primary goal was to alleviate stress we would have all committed suicide.

    Negative utilitarianism is, in my mind, a worthy secondary goal, to positive utilitarianism.

    I don't getting rid the stress is feasible. I don't think it's humanly possible to not be attached to anything (those who might me are catanonic, I conjecture), even the people who try to release never get to the goal before they die and they struggle a lot while they are trying to do it.

    Better, I think, to figure out your values, do some cost-benefit analysis, and start figuring out what small and short pains bring you large and long pleasures. Go for that. Try to master buying the negatives for the positives instead of trying to escape it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curzon View Post
    Whatever we do, we do to get rid of stress?

    Even the richest, the most secure or even the happiest person is under stress? I mean aren't we all under stress? It's as if there is a load on your chest that never goes away.

    Even if you play the right cards, do the right things (or) work hard and get rid of that load, some other load comes and sits on your chest. Even worst, you feel you'll lose what you gained (above) or have?

    the richest person is scared of losing his money and the happiest person is scared of losing what brings happiness. Of course the stress levels vary. But stress we have. All of us.

    What us the solution? To let go is it? Not be attached to anything in the 1st place?
    The book "Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers" suggests that we take a lesson from zebras. Despite being routinely chased by hungry lions, zebras are pretty relaxed most of the time. Zebras are only stressed during the few minutes of the chase, and that stress response is solely to enable them to survive. Once the threat passes, zebras are quick to relax.

    People today don't do that. We stress about things continuously for days, weeks, or even months. This is where we error. Stress is an adaptation meant to bring about peak physical and mental performance for short periods of time, followed by periods of recovery. Without the recovery, the peak potential declines.

    I believe that the key is to intentionally and consciously focus our stress, which in turn will give us permission to intentionally relax. Relaxation periods allow us to reload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curzon View Post
    Whatever we do, we do to get rid of stress?

    Even the richest, the most secure or even the happiest person is under stress? I mean aren't we all under stress? It's as if there is a load on your chest that never goes away.

    Even if you play the right cards, do the right things (or) work hard and get rid of that load, some other load comes and sits on your chest. Even worst, you feel you'll lose what you gained (above) or have?

    the richest person is scared of losing his money and the happiest person is scared of losing what brings happiness. Of course the stress levels vary. But stress we have. All of us.

    What us the solution? To let go is it? Not be attached to anything in the 1st place?
    The prime means of social control is personal tension.

    And personal tension is experienced first in our muscles.

    So to be free, to be free of social control, first we need to learn to relax our muscles.

    And secondly and as a result of relaxing our muscles, we learn to relax our mind.

    And thirdly we learn to relax our muscles and our minds progressively in difficult or painful situations.

    So if we want to be free, a good place to start is with Dr Ainslie Mears' book, "Relief Without Drugs". Ainslie teaches us how to progressively relax our muscles and our minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    The book "Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers" suggests that we take a lesson from zebras. Despite being routinely chased by hungry lions, zebras are pretty relaxed most of the time. Zebras are only stressed during the few minutes of the chase, and that stress response is solely to enable them to survive. Once the threat passes, zebras are quick to relax.

    People today don't do that. We stress about things continuously for days, weeks, or even months. This is where we error. Stress is an adaptation meant to bring about peak physical and mental performance for short periods of time, followed by periods of recovery. Without the recovery, the peak potential declines.

    I believe that the key is to intentionally and consciously focus our stress, which in turn will give us permission to intentionally relax. Relaxation periods allow us to reload.
    You got it. Funny, I got zebra in that animal test.

    I like how Hans Selye puts it. There are two types of stress distress and eustress. Eustress is the good type, the stress of meeting a challenge and doing it, a lot of whether stress is distress or eustress has to do with adaptation and the ability to meet the stress.

    Not moving back from it, moving forward to meet it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfy View Post
    You got it. Funny, I got zebra in that animal test.

    I like how Hans Selye puts it. There are two types of stress distress and eustress. Eustress is the good type, the stress of meeting a challenge and doing it, a lot of whether stress is distress or eustress has to do with adaptation and the ability to meet the stress.

    Not moving back from it, moving forward to meet it.
    Oh man, I forgot about eustress.

    Building strength by lifting weights is the classic example. Eustress is going to the gym. At the gym, we lift weights which cause microscopic tears to our muscles. However, it is while we sleep that our body repairs our muscles, making them stronger in the process so we are better adapted to the challenge next time.

    The growth comes from relaxation. However, it's the stress (eustress) that provides the catalyst for growth. Both are necessary.

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